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  • Strong/Weak

    I was going through all my old files, and I found this from my High School files.

    It's the prologue for Pygmalion.



    Almost immediately after Eliza is stung into proclaiming her considered determination not to marry Higgins, she mentions the fact that young Mr. Frederick Eynsford Hill is pouring out his love for her daily through post. Now Freddy is young, practically twenty years younger than Higgins: he is a the gentleman (or, as Eliza would qualify him, a toff), and speaks like one; he is nicely dressed, is treated by the Colonel as an equal, loves her unaffectedly, and is not her master, nor ever likely to dominate her in spite of his advantage of social standing. Eliza has no use for the foolish romantic tradition that all women love to be mastered, if not actually bullied and beaten. "When you go to women," says Nietzsche, "take your whip with you." Sensible despots have never confined that precaution to women: they have taken their whips with them when they have dealt with men, and been slavishly idealized by the men over whom they have flourished the whip much more than by women. No doubt there are slavish women as well as slavish men; and women, like men, admire those that are stronger than themselves. But to admire a strong person and to live under that strong person's thumb are two different things. The weak may not be admired and hero-worshipped; but they are by no means disliked or shunned; and they never seem to have the least difficulty in marrying people who are too good for them. They may fail in emergencies; but life is not one long emergency: it is mostly a string of situations for which no exceptional strength is needed, and with which even rather weak people can cope if they have a stronger partner to help them out. Accordingly, it is a truth everywhere in evidence that strong people, masculine or feminine, not only do not marry stronger people, but do not shew any preference for them in selecting their friends. When a lion meets another with a louder roar "the first lion thinks the last a bore." The man or woman who feels strong enough for two, seeks for every other quality in a partner than strength. 6 The converse is also true. Weak people want to marry strong people who do not frighten them too much; and this often leads them to make the mistake we describe metaphorically as "biting off more than they can chew." They want too much for too little; and when the bargain is unreasonable beyond all bearing, the union becomes impossible: it ends in the weaker party being either discarded or borne as a cross, which is worse. People who are not only weak, but silly or obtuse as well, are often in these difficulties. 7 This being the state of human affairs, what is Eliza fairly sure to do when she is placed between Freddy and Higgins? Will she look forward to a lifetime of fetching Higgins's slippers or to a lifetime of Freddy fetching hers? There can be no doubt about the answer. Unless Freddy is biologically repulsive to her, and Higgins biologically attractive to a degree that overwhelms all her other instincts, she will, if she marries either of them, marry Freddy. 8 And that is just what Eliza did.

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    So what ?

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    • #3
      Ok, let me highlight the important part.


      No doubt there are slavish women as well as slavish men; and women, like men, admire those that are stronger than them selves. But to admire a strong person and to live under that strong person's thumb are two different things. The weak may not be admired and hero-worshipped; but they are by no means disliked or shunned; and they never seem to have the least difficulty in marrying people who are too good for them. They may fail in emergencies; but life is not one long emergency: it is mostly a string of situations for which no exceptional strength is needed, and with which even rather weak people can cope if they have a stronger partner to help them out. Accordingly, it is a truth everywhere in evidence that strong people, masculine or feminine, not only do not marry stronger people, but do not shew any preference for them in selecting their friends. When a lion meets another with a louder roar "the first lion thinks the last a bore." The man or woman who feels strong enough for two, seeks for every other quality in a partner than strength. 6 The converse is also true. Weak people want to marry strong people who do not frighten them too much; and this often leads them to make the mistake we describe metaphorically as "biting off more than they can chew." They want too much for too little; and when the bargain is unreasonable beyond all bearing, the union becomes impossible: it ends in the weaker party being either discarded or borne as a cross, which is worse. People who are not only weak, but silly or obtuse as well, are often in these difficulties.

      My point:

      Do you think this is true?

      Do you think that weak people look for people who are stronger than themselves, and strong people prefer people who are weaker?(In marriage, and at times friendship)

      I would think patlajan would have something to say about this, since he mentioned something about people who admire other people who have what they lack.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by spiral

        Do you think this is true?

        Do you think that weak people look for people who are stronger than themselves, and strong people prefer people who are weaker?(In marriage, and at times friendship)

        I would think patlajan would have something to say about this, since he mentioned something about people who admire other people who have what they lack.
        I understood exactly, thank you for highlighting anyway. I have many things to say, but it's worthless.
        What patljan said supersedes in all points your extract.

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        • #5
          [QUOTE]I understood exactly, thank you for highlighting anyway. I have many things to say, but it's worthless.
          What patljan said supersedes in all points your extract.QUOTE]


          Why do you post to say absolutely nothing?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by spiral Why do you post to say absolutely nothing?
            Look at his posts/day average.

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            • #7
              DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

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              • #8
                its is true that weak people look for stronger ones and stronger ones look for weaker ones.

                its like a need.

                strong people feel the need to be needed for their strength and manliness.

                weak people need the security and protection of the strong people.

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                • #9
                  Are you screwed if you're in between, then? hehehehe

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                  • #10
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                    \strong people feel the need to be needed for their strength and manliness.
                    Strength and manliness.

                    so women cant be included in your "strong" category?


                    by strong and weak, I don't mean physically. I mean intellectually, emotionally, and towards -individuallity.

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