Atheism and being Armenian

[Odysseus]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

I don't think that it is good for us to be atheists. We were first Christians in world and we must be proud with it!

I don't think that it is good for us to be Christians. We were first Armenian Pagans in world and we must be proud with it!

[Samael]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Religion is not necessary for anything. A lot of people claim that morality is based on religion, but that's complete nonsense. You don't have to be religious to be a good individual and you don't need to be a Christian to be Armenian.

[Sip]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Amen brotha!

[KanadaHye]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Religion is not necessary for anything. A lot of people claim that morality is based on religion, but that's complete nonsense. You don't have to be religious to be a good individual and you don't need to be a Christian to be Armenian.

Just wondering. Do I have to be a J3w to get full rights in Israel?

[Mos]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Just wondering. Do I have to be a J3w to get full rights in Israel?

Israel is a semi-theocratic, semi-fascist state.

[Samael]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Just wondering. Do I have to be a J3w to get full rights in Israel?

Implying I'm a j3w? lol
I wouldn't know.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Implying I'm a j3w? lol
I wouldn't know.

Nah, I was just wondering and thought you might know.

[Samael]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Nah, I was just wondering and thought you might know.

An old childhood friend of mine lives in Israel, he's half j3wish and half Russian. He says that arabs in Israel have equal rights, but I'd take his words with a grain of salt for obvious reasons.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

An old childhood friend of mine lives in Israel, he's half j3wish and half Russian. He says that arabs in Israel have equal rights, but I'd take his words with a grain of salt for obvious reasons.

Well, although religion doesn't necessarily create the Armenian identity, it does, however, play a role in preserving it. Think of it like this... you are less likely to change as a person if you're always reminding yourself of who you are. Although it's good to be diverse as a nation, there are certain aspects that should tie everyone together. When Armenians began diverting from each other in their ways of life, there was a slow and steady decline in "Armenian-ness". For example, there aren't many Armenians who consider "Islamized Armenians" as part of our group... divisions like this (somewhat our fault for having this mentality) are not good as a people since it significantly reduces our chances of survival. Consider reading the link below:

The Armenian ethnoreligious elements in the Western Armenia

http://www.noravank.am/eng/issues/de...LEMENT_ID=3724

[Samael]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Well, although religion doesn't necessarily create the Armenian identity, it does, however, play a role in preserving it. Think of it like this... you are less likely to change as a person if you're always reminding yourself of who you are. Although it's good to be diverse as a nation, there are certain aspects that should tie everyone together. When Armenians began diverting from each other in their ways of life, there was a slow and steady decline in "Armenian-ness". For example, there aren't many Armenians who consider "Islamized Armenians" as part of our group... divisions like this (somewhat our fault for having this mentality) are not good as a people since it significantly reduces our chances of survival. Consider reading the link below:

The Armenian ethnoreligious elements in the Western Armenia

http://www.noravank.am/eng/issues/de...LEMENT_ID=3724

I see where you're coming from but what I was trying to say there was that we, not just Armenians but human beings in general, don't really need religion, or should I say it should have never become such a big part of our cultures in the first place. Surely you agree that there are more than enough cultural traits other than religion that would unite Armenians or that "official" Armenians could share? For all we know, we could have been muslims had our ancestors not bought into the judeo christian fairy tales. Not that I'd want to be muslim, I find the quran to be even more ridiculous than the the tora/bible. I mean, let's face it, quran is basically a rip off. Essentially, they took a few known figures out of the tora/bible, gave them muslim names and put them in their magic book along with the whole Muhammad thing. But, I digress.
As far as I'm concerned, as long as you consider yourself Armenian, you are. I don't speak Armenian, I've never been to Armenia, I was born in a muslim soviet state, most of my friends were Russians, I don't practice any religion, and yet at no point in my life did I view myself as someone other than Armenian.