Atheism and being Armenian

[gkv]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Thanks for saving me from having to watch that.

As though the way you spend your time was of general interest...

was posted with absolutely no tie in to the ongoing discussion.

Well you admit not having watched it and still claim it was posted with "absolutely no tie in to the ongoing discussion" which justifies its deletion.
The "logic" appears to be somewhat flawed.

[gkv]

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Are you saying that the following does not sum up the plot?

No it does not. It is a biased and idiotic interpretation (idiotic for it goes against christian theology and its basic tenets)

Or are you saying that a plot like that should not be classed as propaganda?

There is no point in answering a question based on a false premise.

you removed this part in your post:

And isn't it funny that I seem to know more about the film than you do - such as the number of episodes...

are you trying to win something here?
atheism is a strange passion to say the least.

[Siggie]

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Are you saying that the following does not sum up the plot?



Or are you saying that a plot like that should not be classed as propaganda?

Thanks for saving me from having to watch that. Definitely sounds like propaganda.
I deleted it the first time because it is rather lengthy and was posted with absolutely no tie in to the ongoing discussion.

[bell-the-cat]

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There is no propaganda in this film btw not even a message. it is open-ended.

Are you saying that the following does not sum up the plot?

Here's the plot: A nice intelligent guy raises a gifted and sensitive son alone. Their relationship is filled with love. But the hero has one flaw, he's an agnostic, even though he was brought up in a Catholic family. What's worse, instead of trusting God, he happens to trust science--in particular his computer. God has no choice but to teach him a lesson. And what could best drive God's point if not killing the person the hero loves most--his son?

Or are you saying that a plot like that should not be classed as propaganda?

[gkv]

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There is no propaganda in this film btw not even a message. it is open-ended.

[gkv]

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I posted only one episode for there was only one to watch which is the only one i know
You live with prejudice and are looking with similar minded people to comfort yourself in your prejudices. Allow other people to live otherwise.
You have used the word garbage to qualfy sthg you haven't even seen. I could return the compliment you made to sip in another thread just a few minutes before posting in this one

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

let people see for themselves outside of your strict & narrow mental categories

The most succinct review of the first "short" film I could find:

God as a Mafia Boss I watched the first episode and couldn't believe my eyes. How could anybody, Catholic or atheist take this story seriously? I was watching it and praying: Please, Kieslowski, don't trivialize the matter!

Here's the plot: A nice intelligent guy raises a gifted and sensitive son alone. They relationship if filled with love. But the hero has one flaw, he's an agnostic, even though he was brought up in a Catholic family. What's worse, instead of trusting God, he happens to trust science--in particular his computer. God has no choice but to teach him a lesson. And what could best drive God's point if not killing the person the hero loves most--his son?

Having grown up in Catholic Poland, I can attest that this is how most people there understand religion. The loving God, who--like a Mafia boss--kisses you before stabbing your heart. This is the kind of God who doesn't stay Abraham's hand.

There is no subtlety in Kieslowski's story. No questioning of faith. The commandments are rigid rules--you break them, you pay. And the competing god--the technology--is viewed in a superstitious, parochial, way.

I'm glad Kieslowski didn't present his views on the intelligent design vs. Darwinism.

[bell-the-cat]

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A film under an hour is short imho. that you would refer to this as garbage is quite sad.

A short film is 15 or 20 minutes long at the most. And there are ten of those things, at 50 or so minutes each!

I have better things to do than watch 8 hours of manipulative, clawing, Polish Catholic angst. Or watch obscenities like seeing milk being added to tea that is in a glass cup.

[gkv]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

let people see for themselves outside of your strict & narrow mental categories

[gkv]

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Don't you think saying "none of your arguments are relevant" is also an example of intolerance?

Your "short" film is a pile of propagandistic garbage btw, nor is it "short".

there was no “your“. You misread my words and got a wrong understanding as a result.
A film under an hour is short imho. that you would refer to this as garbage is quite sad.