Atheism and being Armenian

[Lucin]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

my ancestry is Armenian, and i am identified as armenian, yet i am very indifferent about the concept of god, it is a very vauge idea, but the idea of a christian god, its a joke to me, it is projecting human personalities actions culture and society to a higher power. its a way to justify our stupidity, saying god/s are like this. I acknowledge the nihilistic reality of things, but i play along with life becouse i got nothing better to do.
so of i am labeled not armenian for not beliveing in a god? if so then I will take that label and go on with my life. it dosnt change who i am.

Ahh I know.. it's not very classy, intelligent, chic or intellectual to identify ourselves as Christian or to believe in God.. there is also the risk of being ridiculed by 'intellectuals'...
Actually, atheism is obsolete now so let's wait a bit for the next 'trend' to identify ourselves with.

[Sip]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

I've said this before and will say again ... Armenians existed loooooong before the Christian God came to be and hopefully we'll continue to exist long after.

[Odysseus]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

my ancestry is Armenian, and i am identified as armenian, yet i am very indifferent about the concept of god, it is a very vauge idea, but the idea of a christian god, its a joke to me, it is projecting human personalities actions culture and society to a higher power. its a way to justify our stupidity, saying god/s are like this. I acknowledge the nihilistic reality of things, but i play along with life becouse i got nothing better to do.
so of i am labeled not armenian for not beliveing in a god? if so then I will take that label and go on with my life. it dosnt change who i am.

[gkv]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

the only valid question is not: "why did he do this?", "why did she do that?", "why is he like this?", "why is she like that?"
but "what should I do?" and "who should I be?"

and in answering these two questions not look for any fake, outward excuses.

[gkv]

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one could ask why did God allow his son to suffer on the cross?
the short answer is the answer does not matter. such questions should not have any bearing on the way one chooses to lead his/her own life.
what hides behind reasonings is often moral cowardice.
evil in this world does not justify committing evil
in fact it should be an incentive to do good as hatred should be an incentive for love to compensate for it.
evil in this world does not justify not loving one's neighbor
and if you love your neighbor then you love God as there is a strict identity between Matthew 22:39 and Matthew 22:37

[KanadaHye]

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I don't believe that any good comes directly from horrific events, so people that start to do or believe things because they went through such events are doing them for the wrong reasons and it is unlikely that such things will end well. Rather than helping get over the event, or being an aid to understanding the event, it is more likely to just keep the trauma of the event with you for longer.

Life is a lesson. You'll learn it when you're done. The goal is to ensure future generations don't make the same mistakes. So we write lessons in books. Future generations read what is written. They don't understand how it applies to them until history is repeated.

[Mos]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

One religious question I have always had trouble getting my mind around is how could God have allowed the murder of 1.5 million innocent Christian civilians to take place. We were the first Christian nation, we were faithful, why did we have to lose everything and the Muslim Turks gain everything? And why for all this time justice has never been served? These questions are enough to make some turn away from God, and they are important ones to consider given our history. Some people will say, oh it was a test of the faith, while I will respond that it's a very sadistic way of testing a people and it represents more evil than God.

[bell-the-cat]

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I do not know if anyone agrees with what I am about to say...

I know that some survivors of horrific events do become atheists. While those
that were not very religious, became very much so.

I don't believe that any good comes directly from horrific events, so people that start to do or believe things because they went through such events are doing them for the wrong reasons and it is unlikely that such things will end well. Rather than helping get over the event, or being an aid to understanding the event, it is more likely to just keep the trauma of the event with you for longer.

[KanadaHye]

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That is standard religious orthodoxy. In every ancient Armenian manuscript that details some disaster or massacre or oppression or whatever, it is always characterised as "because of our sins" such and such happened.

I always thought it is always characterised as "because of their sins" because Armenians are perfect

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

I know of a man here in the detroit community who is a preacher (i dont know his exact title in the church) who claimed on april 24 in church that armenians deserved to be slaughteredbecause they were not religious enough. This is not all that rare to find among the religious idiots who blame the victim. Unfortunately i think i was the only one who noticed this and was ready to do anything about it. Sometimes religion sickens me in a way that nothing else possibly could.

That is standard religious orthodoxy. In every ancient Armenian manuscript that details some disaster or massacre or oppression or whatever, it is always characterised as "because of our sins" such and such happened.