Atheism and being Armenian

[KanadaHye]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

I know of a man here in the detroit community who is a preacher (i dont know his exact title in the church) who claimed on april 24 in church that armenians deserved to be slaughteredbecause they were not religious enough. This is not all that rare to find among the religious idiots who blame the victim. Unfortunately i think i was the only one who noticed this and was ready to do anything about it. Sometimes religion sickens me in a way that nothing else possibly could.

Armenians got slaughtered because of their political connections in Europe and the Americas. They thought that enemies of the Ottoman Empire would intervene and rescue the Armenian people within the Empire if they stood up for independence. Little did they know that there were other plans set for Armenians (or maybe they did know?).

I don't know how your opinion of this one guy has anything to do with the Armenian church. One of my mom's distant cousins is actually a preacher in the Detroit area and I can't stand his views on certain things. He means well but he's lucky it's a well paid profession because I don't think he'd be too good at anything more than reciting phrases out of age old books.

[Haykakan]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

I do not know if anyone agrees with what I am about to say...

I know that some survivors of horrific events do become atheists. While those
that were not very religious, became very much so.

Many survivors from different cultures share this experience. It is due to those
who survive and loose all their family, wonder "why the Lord let them live."

They may have mixed feelings or guilt, if they were the misbehaving ones
or those that in retrospect knew they did not 'appreciate their family.'

Some said, 'why were they allowed to live and not a brother or sister?'

When a survivor is alone, it is very heart wrenching.
Very sad.

Those that loose their faith, they say 'if there is a Lord, then why did he
allow all this to happen?"

It is difficult to answer and some close their ears if one quotes the Bible.

More so when one states they are the "skeptic's skeptic."

They pepper their words with "you have to use logic..."

I knew of such a man. He was this way till he passed on.

I know of a man here in the detroit community who is a preacher (i dont know his exact title in the church) who claimed on april 24 in church that armenians deserved to be slaughteredbecause they were not religious enough. This is not all that rare to find among the religious idiots who blame the victim. Unfortunately i think i was the only one who noticed this and was ready to do anything about it. Sometimes religion sickens me in a way that nothing else possibly could.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

You forgot the lol, jerk!

lol

..... lol

[Christina]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

I do not know if anyone agrees with what I am about to say...

I know that some survivors of horrific events do become atheists. While those
that were not very religious, became very much so.

Many survivors from different cultures share this experience. It is due to those
who survive and loose all their family, wonder "why the Lord let them live."

They may have mixed feelings or guilt, if they were the misbehaving ones
or those that in retrospect knew they did not 'appreciate their family.'

Some said, 'why were they allowed to live and not a brother or sister?'

When a survivor is alone, it is very heart wrenching.
Very sad.

Those that loose their faith, they say 'if there is a Lord, then why did he
allow all this to happen?"

It is difficult to answer and some close their ears if one quotes the Bible.

More so when one states they are the "skeptic's skeptic."

They pepper their words with "you have to use logic..."

I knew of such a man. He was this way till he passed on.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Nobody here takes you seriously so don't worry about it.

You forgot the lol, jerk!

lol

[KanadaHye]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

He didn't take offense because he saw you as an imature and dishonest fool! Quote "I got bored and uninterested because I didn't get a discussion that was being conducted by intellectually honest and mature adults."

PS; lol.
(Since typing that seems to excuse everything in Kanadahye's eyes.)

Nobody here takes you seriously so don't worry about it.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Obviously no one believes in superheroes or science fiction.

"States, cultures, societies, tribes and familes have historically always been very hostile towards any sort of 'deviance' from what they consider the sexual norm, because they feel the need to control the means of reproduction of their particular group. Any 'deviance' is seen as a form of rebellion and a threat to the prolonged sustainability of said group. This reminds me of a passage from George Orwell's "1984," probably my favorite book of all time, in which the main characters are engaged in 'deviant,' unauthorized sex, and Orwell characterizes sex as a political act."

every now and then a snot-nosed teenager straight out of a dostoevsky novel will come up, infatuated with a few lines he's read here and there and proclaim "God is dead" thinking he's smart and subversive.

maybe he should go further and have inverted sex inside a church building (a "political" act, cf http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....879#post313879 ).

Looks like someone believes in science fiction.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

See Siggie, Jinx understood what I was doing and didn't take offense to it, lol.

He didn't take offense because he saw you as an imature and dishonest fool! Quote "I got bored and uninterested because I didn't get a discussion that was being conducted by intellectually honest and mature adults."

PS; lol.
(Since typing that seems to excuse everything in Kanadahye's eyes.)

[gkv]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

J’ai peur pour vous, dit presque timidement Tikhon.
— Vous avez peur que je n’y résiste pas ? Que je ne puisse supporter leur haine ?
— Non pas seulement leur haine.
— Quoi donc encore ?
— Leur.... rire. Il prononça ces paroles tout bas, comme malgré lui.

http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/La_Confession_de_Stavroguine

excerpt from: http://www.amazon.com/Devils-Possess.../dp/0140440356
could not find an english translation online. this chapter was censored in earlier versions of the work.

[gkv]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

the church of Christ is not a human institution. it knows no border. one does not know its extent. only God can see.

every now and then a snot-nosed teenager straight out of a dostoevsky novel will come up, infatuated with a few lines he's read here and there and proclaim "God is dead" thinking he's smart and subversive.

maybe he should go further and have inverted sex inside a church building (a "political" act, cf http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....879#post313879 ).

hopefully "all will come later" (artour)