Atheism and being Armenian

[Siggie]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

this either says something about the teacher or the student. or maybe this says nothing at all for there is neither a teacher nor a student. or the teacher only exists in the student's mind. does the student have a mind? this is yet another open question. but what is a question to start with?

I'm fairly confident it's not me. You seem to have a gift for using a lot of words, but saying nothing.

[gkv]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

or i tried something with you but it didn't work. at least i tried.

[Siggie]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Umm... okay? See what I mean about posting for yourself only though?

[gkv]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

you want things to be made explicit. well, sometimes this is possible, sometimes it is not.
a projection from a higher dimensional space implies a loss of information along the way. mapping/representing the higher order information/reality thus represents a challenge.
unconventional mappings may, by means of suggestion, hint at the unfathomable better than more expected ones. in all cases, chances of success are scarce.

[Siggie]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

you want things to be made explicit. well, sometimes this is possible, sometimes it is not.
a projection from a higher dimensional space implies a loss of information along the way. mapping/representing the higher order information/reality thus represents a challenge.
unconventional mappings may, by means of suggestion, hint at the unfathomable better than more expected ones. in all cases, chances of success are scarce.

Ah, a word salad...
I've encountered this in student papers before: Using language to create the impression that you're saying something profound/intelligent/impressive etc., but it's incomprehensible because it's an illusion.

[gkv]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Ah, a word salad...
I've encountered this in student papers before: Using language to create the impression that you're saying something profound/intelligent/impressive etc., but it's incomprehensible because it's an illusion.

a projection of 3D data into a 2D space implies a loss of information. is that incomprehensible?

if you evolve inside a 3D world, you will have difficulty grasping what 4D is
and you might claim 4D does not exist.
but it being an illusion or not is not a decidable problem for you. you may believe it is. you may as well believe it is not.

[gkv]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

now the straighforward projection of a vector v of dimension n into a a space of dimension m where m < n consists in dropping say the last (n - m) components
let's take n = 3 and m = 2
if you have a vector (1,1,1), you end up with (1,1)
if you take a cube, you'll end up with a square (in some cases). does the square suggest the cube? no it doesn't.
which is why people attempting to show the cube in 2D will use other techniques to suggest the cube for instance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.5D

this is really trivial stuff even a psychology PhD should be able to understand.

[Sip]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

Fortunately most discussions about theism, atheism, and religion don't go nearly as far as approaching n-dimensional manifold projections into k-dimensional finite spaces

They boil down to this:

The bible says God exists and God wrote the bible therefore we have a cycle that reinforces itself into a truth.

You don't need fancy shmancy theory and logic to see that is just fundamentally flawed. All the rest of the discussions just go around and around and around this basic premise. So I think the truly intelligent are the ones that can break complicated looking statements into their fundamental components as opposed to getting confused with the complexity of n-dimensional facets that just rise from combining too many things into a statement.

[gkv]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

"unfortunately" this is not the case here

[gkv]

Re: Atheism and being Armenian

nice "word salad" btw. Siggie should appreciate