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Have our spiritual leaders lost their moral compass?
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Istanbul Armenian is buried in accordance with Islamic rites
June 30, 2012 | 14:45
ISTANBUL. – Another news item published in Istanbul’s Agos Armenian bilingual weekly is widely covered by the Turkish press.
According to the news article, in order to organize the funeral service of Istanbul Armenian Harutyun Kambarizoglu who died at the age of 87, the Surp Garabet Armenian Church of Istanbul had asked for 8,000 Turkish liras (approx. US$ 4,420) from his daughter Anna Tasciyan, but since she could not pay that amount, she buried her father in accordance with Islamic rites and in a Turkish cemetery.
In an interview with Haberturk, Anna Tasciyan noted that she very much wished to bury her father with Christian customs, but their financial capabilities were insufficient for this, Beyazgazete website reports.
It is noted that Tasciyan had asked the Church to allow her to pay the 8,000 liras in installments, but she was denied this request.
“[So,] I had to accept that my father be buried in accordance with Islamic rites and in a Turkish cemetery,” said Anna Tasciyan.
Armenian Church representative Osin Mumcuyan, on the other hand, noted that they had informed the relative of the deceased about the price list of the Armenian Patriarchate of Constantinople and there was nothing else to do.
But the Patriarchate’s Spiritual Council Chairman, Reverend Father Tatul Anushyan claimed they were uninformed of all this and had they known, they would not have allowed it.
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Re: Have our spiritual leaders lost their moral compass?
Originally posted by yerazhishda View PostThat's pretty cynical.
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Re: Have our spiritual leaders lost their moral compass?
Originally posted by jgk3 View PostA priest is just a sinner charged with the task of reciting biblical texts and calling out their congregation for the greatest sin of them all, not supporting the church!
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Re: Have our spiritual leaders lost their moral compass?
A priest is just a sinner charged with the task of reciting biblical texts and calling out their congregation for the greatest sin of them all, not supporting the church!
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Re: Have our spiritual leaders lost their moral compass?
Originally posted by Siggie View PostCertainly. I think a lot of them can also be summarized under fewer "umbrella" rules, but yes... People all over behave badly and the majority of them are adherents to some world religion (in the US and Europe, this tends to be Christianity). If people truly believed that they were going to burn for ETERNITY for "sinning" (some sins don't constitute immoral behavior, imo), how can they still do it? Why doesn't it deter?
Many are good without god and many are bad with god. I just don't think these things are bound as closely as some imply or out-and-out claim. That's all I'm saying.
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Re: Have our spiritual leaders lost their moral compass?
Originally posted by KanadaHye View PostThat depends on what you define as moral. Moses only presented 10 commandments to society. The modern law system has an encyclopedia worth of commandments yet none of them prevent the decay of morality.
Many are good without god and many are bad with god. I just don't think these things are bound as closely as some imply or out-and-out claim. That's all I'm saying.
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Re: Have our spiritual leaders lost their moral compass?
Originally posted by Siggie View Post
Yes, that's what I expected you'd say. Now, that requires acknowledging too, that they didn't behave well or in the way their religion would encourage them to, right? Don't just make a comment diverting attention from the fact that regardless of x, y, z, they didn't do the right thing.
Perhaps morality is independent of religion afterall?
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Re: Have our spiritual leaders lost their moral compass?
Originally posted by Federate View PostI say good job Armenians, don't take xxxx from Greeks. Broomstick their ass! (sounds dirty)
Originally posted by yerazhishda View PostAlong with the turn the other cheek clause, there's also that part about man being imperfect.
Priests/monk are no less subject to this than your regular lay person (obviously).
Perhaps morality is independent of religion afterall?
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