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How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

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  • Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    Did you get this from a fortune cookie?
    Yes. Does that make it less true?

    [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
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    • Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
      Why do you feel you must insult the core Religion of Armenians on an Armenian site. Just curious.
      I also feel insulting the Holy Book of our Religion and the religion of the Armenian nation as completely wrong. I'm not going to force everyone to believe my faith, but I do think people need to be more respectful when it comes to what they say about our Holy Scripture and religion, especially if one is an Armenian talking against the religion of the Armenian people. I've noticed that in the secular West, everything is done to attack religion as something "backwards" and ignoring the fundamental good that has come from Jesus's teachings and the set of morality that it has established in societies. It's seems that it's part of some agenda. A godless, secular society is something that we must avoid in Armenia, because the consequences of it will be dire.
      Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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      "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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      • Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

        Originally posted by Mos View Post
        I also feel insulting the Holy Book of our Religion and the religion of the Armenian nation as completely wrong. I'm not going to force everyone to believe my faith, but I do think people need to be more respectful when it comes to what they say about our Holy Scripture and religion, especially if one is an Armenian talking against the religion of the Armenian people. I've noticed that in the secular West, everything is done to attack religion as something "backwards" and ignoring the fundamental good that has come from Jesus's teachings and the set of morality that it has established in societies. It's seems that it's part of some agenda. A godless, secular society is something that we must avoid in Armenia, because the consequences of it will be dire.


        Criticism is not insult! Is there supposed to be no questioning of anything religious? No discussion? No dialogue? Religion is exempt from the application of any critical thought?

        It's not an insult to question the veracity of a book written by men who believed the world was flat and that Earth was the center of the universe. It's a sign that the synapses are firing.
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        • Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

          Originally posted by Siggie View Post
          Criticism is not insult! Is there supposed to be no questioning of anything religious? No discussion? No dialogue? Religion is exempt from the application of any critical thought?
          If you want to learn Religion then feel free to ask questions and discuss. Why don't you go insult the Koran or Torah or Buddhism or Hinduism. Stop being so juvenile.

          Originally posted by Siggie View Post
          It's not an insult to question the veracity of a book written by men who believed the world was flat and that Earth was the center of the universe. It's a sign that the synapses are firing.
          Ever hear of Atlas from Greek Mythology?

          Knowledge of the Earth being round was never in question. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

          I've probably told you this 10 times already but you keep using it as though you are getting paid 10 cents per post.
          Last edited by KanadaHye; 11-20-2012, 02:56 PM.
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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          • Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

            Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
            Ever hear of Atlas from Greek Mythology?

            Knowledge of the Earth being round was never in question. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

            I've probably told you this 10 times already but you keep using it as though you are getting paid 10 cents per post.
            Although I think I figured this out. They teach Americans this B.S. in school, don't they? Along with their Indian killer Columbus.
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

              Originally posted by Siggie View Post
              Criticism is not insult! Is there supposed to be no questioning of anything religious? No discussion? No dialogue? Religion is exempt from the application of any critical thought?

              It's not an insult to question the veracity of a book written by men who believed the world was flat and that Earth was the center of the universe. It's a sign that the synapses are firing.
              If you go over the thread, there have been insulting things said.

              Don't paint it as if the bible's purpose is to describe the earth and physical features of our environment. The core of the bible, the fundamental part of the Bible from which the cornerstone of Christianity was laid is in the New Testament, more specifically with the teachings of Jesus. So if you want to argue against Christianity then you have to talk about those teachings.

              For example, one of the most quoted and famous sayings from the New Testament:

              "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." Matthew 7:1-11
              Yet so many people violate this principle daily (including me)...but it's desire to live up to such principles and to recognize the Holy importance of them in your life.
              Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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              "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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              • Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

                Some say the bible has no expiration date, however science books change every so many years.

                There is no doubt that the science and religion overlap each other.....and it does that inside of a human being, with his/her own religion and science.
                B0zkurt Hunter

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                • Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

                  Originally posted by hrai View Post
                  Studies are showing that much of the Old Testament is probably based on fact.
                  Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                  I'm not aware of such studies. Can you share some, please?


                  I suggest reading this, it's only 600 pages
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

                    The Vatican has two observatories with pope scientists.....not open to public and not limited by budget or time in search of....
                    B0zkurt Hunter

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                    • Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

                      Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
                      The Vatican has two observatories with pope scientists.....not open to public and not limited by budget or time in search of....
                      When I initially looked into the "HAARP" project I realized I had to look into "multi - national corporations".
                      I " modeled" multi-national corporations" such that there was a shape but had no name(s).
                      That's when the catholic church(vatican) came into my view.
                      Artashes

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