How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

[Siggie]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

I see the Bible as the word of God. The message he gives to us through Jesus Christ should be learned and followed. It creates a way of life. It creates a system of values with which to think about the world, to make decisions, to interact with others, to love, and so forth. The system of values that was created by Christianity was revolutionary for humanity.

Indeed. As I pointed out earlier, some of the highlights of that value system include prescriptions for how to treat rape victims, homosexuals, nonbelievers, and slaves.

[MrHyeSev]

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Totally agree with Mos

I see the Bible as the word of God. The message he gives to us through Jesus Christ should be learned and followed. It creates a way of life. It creates a system of values with which to think about the world, to make decisions, to interact with others, to love, and so forth. The system of values that was created by Christianity was revolutionary for humanity.

[Mos]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

I see the Bible as the word of God. The message he gives to us through Jesus Christ should be learned and followed. It creates a way of life. It creates a system of values with which to think about the world, to make decisions, to interact with others, to love, and so forth. The system of values that was created by Christianity was revolutionary for humanity.

[Siggie]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

Don't the other gospels that have turned up also show that the bible is an edited work?

E.g. The fragments found in Egypt a couple years ago...?

http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_stories/2011/110726.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyrhynchus_Papyri#Theological_manuscripts

They know of GOD...why are you so against the Bible just curious?

I also know of the Flaying Spaghetti Monster. So what?

[Haykakan]

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I am not against the bible but i am sure it is not filled with words from a supreme being. The bible was written by many authors and i believe it was a guide for people at that time about how they should live their lives. Perhaps it served its purpose at the time or perhaps not but either way it is hopelessly outdated regardless of which version you choose to believe. The bible should be studied for what it is -a guide to life for people who lived thousends of years ago. Just because someone said that these are the words of god-does not make it so. As for your comment "they know of God" it appears to me that people who believe in god or gods are very particular about the type of god they and others must believe in to the point that they will kill others who believe in another kind of god-gods..Thus saying that they know of god is meaningless because those of other faiths call those gods bs or false so to them their god is true and yours is false. So then does it matter if they believe in the true god or not?

They know of GOD...why are you so against the Bible just curious?

[MrHyeSev]

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They know of GOD...why are you so against the Bible just curious?

Again you state everyone believes..well that is just not true. There are plenty of athiests and agnostic people in this world. The people who do believe in a spritual being have many different beliefes including multiple gods, animals, even planets and stars.. there are so many different beliefes that to say that everyone belives there is a god is again misleading even if you count out the athiests and agnostic people. Blanket statements are usually wrong and yours is no exception.

[Haykakan]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

Again you state everyone believes..well that is just not true. There are plenty of athiests and agnostic people in this world. The people who do believe in a spritual being have many different beliefes including multiple gods, animals, even planets and stars.. there are so many different beliefes that to say that everyone belives there is a god is again misleading even if you count out the athiests and agnostic people. Blanket statements are usually wrong and yours is no exception.

When a human calls another human intelligent, it's not an insult. Secondly, yes everyone believes even people that are not Christian believe there is GOD, if you read the Bible, the devil was an angel of GOD, so yes everyone believe but not everyone lives for him.

[MrHyeSev]

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When a human calls another human intelligent, it's not an insult. Secondly, yes everyone believes even people that are not Christian believe there is GOD, if you read the Bible, the devil was an angel of GOD, so yes everyone believe but not everyone lives for him.

I am not talking about the diffference because that is not what you said. You said "Um everyone believes " and i think everyone knows that is not true. As for me being a intellectual well that is hardly what i consider myself but the word is hardly insulting.

[Haykakan]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

I am not talking about the diffference because that is not what you said. You said "Um everyone believes " and i think everyone knows that is not true. As for me being a intellectual well that is hardly what i consider myself but the word is hardly insulting.

Believing & living for Christ are 2 different things, if you are so intellectual study it. and you will know the difference

[MrHyeSev]

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Believing & living for Christ are 2 different things, if you are so intellectual study it. and you will know the difference

So now you not only know that god exists but you also know that everyone believes in him. You are such a bastion of knowledge.