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  • #181
    Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

    Siggy and Sip: Social scientists generally agree that people who have dualistic or black-white thinking are at a much more primitive stage of development than those who can see things in a more nuanced way. In other words, folks like Mos and Levon who see women as either virgins or sl-ts, who see men and women as having set roles, who see their views as taking precedence over others, who see the world through the lens of nationality or race, who believe their way is the *only* way for everyone, who think you can't be a man and be gay, you can't be a normal person who happens to enjoy intimacy with the same sex, you can't be an Armenian and not follow religion, you can't have self-respect and not dress like a Mennonite... these guys and all who think like them are, by definition, more primitive than those who can see shades of gray, than those who can accommodate ambivalence or both/and thinking, and who can respect other people's ideas as different but equal.

    I would love to see what their lives look like in 20 years...

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    • #182
      Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

      This thread delivers.....
      B0zkurt Hunter

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      • #183
        Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

        Originally posted by Siggie View Post
        Ah, back to insulting me? I am inclined to believe the way you have treated me in the past and continue to treat me is because you find me threatening. Otherwise, you'd engage in actual dialogue instead of hurling insults and implying that I must have a personal reason (e.g. I am seeking approval to be promiscuous) for having the views that I do.
        Yep, I'm terrified. Please God, oh please don't ever put me in the same room as Siggie. I don't think I'll be able to survive the sheer aura of 12-cat desperation.
        Going forward, don't insult me and I won't insult you.

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        • #184
          Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

          Originally posted by Flamenkita View Post
          Siggy and Sip: Social scientists generally agree that people who have dualistic or black-white thinking are at a much more primitive stage of development than those who can see things in a more nuanced way. In other words, folks like Mos and Levon who see women as either virgins or sl-ts, who see men and women as having set roles, who see their views as taking precedence over others, who see the world through the lens of nationality or race, who believe their way is the *only* way for everyone, who think you can't be a man and be gay, you can't be a normal person who happens to enjoy intimacy with the same sex, you can't be an Armenian and not follow religion, you can't have self-respect and not dress like a Mennonite... these guys and all who think like them are, by definition, more primitive than those who can see shades of gray, than those who can accommodate ambivalence or both/and thinking, and who can respect other people's ideas as different but equal.

          I would love to see what their lives look like in 20 years...
          Yep, I'm real primitive. I just want money and power. AND... I love strip-clubs. Finally, I don't give a f*k if you're a xxxx. I don't care if any woman is a sl*t. Hell, the more the merrier. Sex without marital commitments is a hell-of-a deal as long as you don't screw up and get the ho pregnant.

          Important to remember. There isn't always a good woman for every man, but there's always a chump for every ho. Don't be a chump. Don't give the ho the time of day. F*ck the ho then leave her to her cats. If you land a great woman, then be happy. Otherwise, be happy you didn't land a harpy and enjoy every minute of bachelorhood.

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          • #185
            Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

            Originally posted by Siggie View Post
            When women are raised to think that their one function in life is to get married and have a family, then they will do and say what they need to in order to fulfill that function and not bring shame on themselves or their family. It may be possible to find a woman who will say she's willing to live by these standards or even that she beliefs them to be right herself, but I don't think it's heartfelt or if it is, it's because they don't know anything else. So, you might marry one woman and end up with a very different woman as your wife.

            For instance, this has occurred in the US, where values have shifted or some other situation (depression, war, etc.) has resulting in it being acceptable for women to work outside the home. Many of these women found fulfillment in doing so only to have that taken away when the conditions changed.
            It's an important function but not the only function in life. There are plenty of women that understand this, that understand that keeping a good home, being traditional and modest, is an important function, but that's not the only function that they wish to portray. They have educational interests, they have hobbies they want to pursue, etc. So don't see it so black and white, because it really isn't. Just because I emphasise the traditional and family roles does not all of sudden make a women a "slave".
            Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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            "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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            • #186
              Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

              Originally posted by Mos View Post
              It's an important function but not the only function in life. There are plenty of women that understand this, that understand that keeping a good home, being traditional and modest, is an important function, but that's not the only function that they wish to portray. They have educational interests, they have hobbies they want to pursue, etc. So don't see it so black and white, because it really isn't. Just because I emphasise the traditional and family roles does not all of sudden make a women a "slave".
              Feminists actually see things much more black and white. In their mind, any woman who doesn't fit their definition (i.e. a used up sl*t who works 40+ hours, has 12 cats and fantasizes about being saved from it all by a rich and handsome husband) as a village idiot who needs enlightenment. If they were as accepting as they claim to be, they would not be so against women making choices that disagree with their agenda.

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              • #187
                Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

                Originally posted by levon View Post
                Feminists actually see things much more black and white. In their mind, any woman who doesn't fit their definition (i.e. a used up sl*t who works 40+ hours, has 12 cats and fantasizes about being saved from it all by a rich and handsome husband) as a village idiot who needs enlightenment. If they were as accepting as they claim to be, they would not be so against women making choices that disagree with their agenda.
                Right, they view a woman that is modest or an active mother as someone "backwards" and someone "oppressed" and uneducated, when in fact dedicated mothers can be very educated and often very happy with their role in the family. They think all these women are just waiting for the chance to jump free and start sleeping with everybody and wearing mini-skirts.....and that some how your are more "progressive" if you lead such a lifestyle, but all of a sudden you are backwards when you lead a more respectable, humble, and family oriented lifestyle.....

                have you heard about this political party? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminis...ative_(Sweden)
                Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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                "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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                • #188
                  Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

                  Originally posted by Mos View Post
                  Right, they view a woman that is modest or an active mother as someone "backwards" and someone "oppressed" and uneducated, when in fact dedicated mothers can be very educated and often very happy with their role in the family. They think all these women are just waiting for the chance to jump free and start sleeping with everybody and wearing mini-skirts.....and that some how your are more "progressive" if you lead such a lifestyle, but all of a sudden you are backwards when you lead a more respectable, humble, and family oriented lifestyle.....
                  The irony is that 50 years ago, to be a sl*t was to be rebellious against society, and to be traditional was to conform. Now, it's completely switched. Being a sl*t is so accepted that one may argue that doing so is to conform to society's standards. On the other hand, being traditional is the new rebellion.

                  Originally posted by Mos View Post
                  have you heard about this political party? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminis...ative_(Sweden)
                  Man, Sweden is so out of whack one might thing he's reading a satire when reading facts.

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                  • #189
                    Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

                    Originally posted by levon View Post
                    The irony is that 50 years ago, to be a sl*t was to be rebellious against society, and to be traditional was to conform. Now, it's completely switched. Being a sl*t is so accepted that one may argue that doing so is to conform to society's standards. On the other hand, being traditional is the new rebellion.
                    Haha, exactly, in the West being traditional has become the new "rebellion"....and if you look at Western culture/films it's obvious that society's standards have changed this way. Now they are trying to do the same in Armenia....


                    Man, Sweden is so out of whack one might thing he's reading a satire when reading facts.
                    yeah did you hear about that ridiculous rape case against Assange?? It's tough being a male in Sweden....
                    Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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                    "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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                    • #190
                      Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

                      Originally posted by levon View Post
                      ... i.e. a used up sl*t who works 40+ hours, has 12 cats and fantasizes about being saved from it all by a rich and handsome husband...
                      I get the feeling that some of you guys really aren't meeting the right women. You seem to either run into sl*ts or the "modest virgin". I'd literally probably either kill myself or turn gay if those were the only two choices I had in life
                      this post = teh win.

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