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  • #21
    Originally posted by Baron Dants Half Armenian shmalf Armenian. I couldn't care less. I know many people who are half-armenian and who are prouder and more knowledgeable about Armenia than people who are "full" armenian.

    My main problem is with people who just don't seem to care about Armenia or their armenian community, and who will just bring it up when they need something. I don't just remember my "armenianness", I LIVE it every second of every day.

    Language for me IS a very big issue. It is one of the pillars of our culture, and it's very hard to deny it. And it IS something to be proud of, as we have an extremely beautiful language, that will die if we don't use it.

    Also, one of my biggest pet peeves are people called Garo who will want to be called Gary, or Anto as Andy, or Sevan as Steve, yevayln. It's too "I'm one of you guys..no no, really, I am...please embrace me as an American/Canadian!"
    Precisely my point, language is the BIGGEST part of our culture, in fact it is what makes each peoples in the world stand out, their unique culture and all else flows from that. If you don't speak it, it will die, and so will our culture, for whatever traditions, dances, customs and activities we have that are "Armenian" have been come to be because one Armenian has communicated with another via the language, where this has been fused.

    To say that "language is unimportant" essentially saves ourself the process of having to go through with learning this language, and instead carrying "Armenian" around like a label. Morever, I attribute it more like a "feeling" that comes with speaking it, just like my feeling of God that comes with my faith. In any event, sad that so many Armenians think that just by carying a label they are holding on to something "Armenian".

    That is not to say you shouldn't learn other languages, on the contrary there is an Armenian saying that equates to the knowledge of languages to your humanness. But most of all mayreni lezun chmoranak. Armenians forget that it is precisely their language of Armenian that they speak, which makes them Armenians as a whole able to accept other languages more easily, for historically a small people such as this have always spoken not just Armenian, but also the language of the occupiers. Perhaps no other language has the phonetic clarity of Armenian, it's precision, and lack of ambiguity are unmatched, hence in my other thread I mentioned why anthropologist Margaret Mead stated that Armenian should be an international language, yet few Armenians realize the the genius that Mashtots andAbovan in their efforts in developing this language.
    Achkerov kute.

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    • #22
      Speaking of Abovian, I believe he has said it best:

      "10 lezoo sorvetsek, tser lezoon, tser havadke amoor bahetsek"

      But what does Abovian know anyways, eh?

      Silva Gabudikian also has a nice one:

      "Te mort ankam mdkit hanes, ko mayr lezoon chmoranas".


      I always found that line by Gabudikian to be a very strong one, as she is a woman (is she a mother? I don't know...), and it just seems to be very honest. Patriotic armenian women kick ass.

      Of course, we used to mock that poem all the time (u des vortis, dolma udes ), but it has quite the effect on me.
      Last edited by xBaron Dants; 02-05-2004, 10:00 PM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Baron Dants Speaking of Abovian, I believe he has said it best:

        "10 lezoo sorvetsek, tser lezoon, tser havadke amoor bahetsek"

        But what does Abovian know anyways, eh?

        Silva Gabudikian also has a nice one:

        "Te mort ankam mdkit hanes, ko mayr lezoon chmoranas".


        I always found that line by Gabudikian to be a very strong one, as she is a woman (is she a mother? I don't know...), and it just seems to be very honest. Patriotic armenian women kick ass.

        Of course, we used to mock that poem all the time (u des vortis, dolma udes ), but it has quite the effect on me.
        Who cares about what these cool dawgz said anyway right bro? As long as I can chill with my homies, act like I'm black, and ride in my BMW pumpin 50 cents music, and go to clubs and pimp xxxxxes, I got it all dawg.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Anonymouse Who cares about what these cool dawgz said anyway right bro? As long as I can chill with my homies, act like I'm black, and ride in my BMW pumpin 50 cents music, and go to clubs and pimp xxxxxes, I got it all dawg.
          I know you won't like hearing this anon, but if you were next to me, I'd give you a hug right now.

          The more we talk about this, the more I am ABSOOOOLUTELY CONVIIIIIIIIINCED (alright, I already was ABSOOOOLUTELY CONVIIIIIIIIINCED) that I would not be the same person if I did not speak armenian, and I would not feel the same attachment to Armenia and Armenians as I do today.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Baron Dants I know you won't like hearing this anon, but if you were next to me, I'd give you a hug right now.

            The more we talk about this, the more I am ABSOOOOLUTELY CONVIIIIIIIIINCED (alright, I already was ABSOOOOLUTELY CONVIIIIIIIIINCED) that I would not be the same person if I did not speak armenian, and I would not feel the same attachment to Armenia and Armenians as I do today.
            Oh wait, I forgot to mention my latest cell phone dawg. Now i gots a camera on my phone to take pictures of those xxxxxes dawg.
            Achkerov kute.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Anonymouse Oh wait, I forgot to mention my latest cell phone dawg. Now i gots a camera on my phone to take pictures of those xxxxxes dawg.
              Bro, you can put your ringer to play a twinz song. Some sick armo xxxx dawg.

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              • #27
                Mr. Dance, you'd be surprised that many of the "Armenians" here in souther California, I will not consider Armenian, maybe say 10% I'd consider Armenian. For the most part, the metamorphsis was so rapid that with the broken Armenian that has turned to "slang" with a melange of English is pretty sad. Coupled with this the overall stupidity and cupidity of Armenians has reached magical proportions where you'd think witchcraft is responsible for such mindlessness. But I guess that is to be expected in consumer capitalist/socialist empire.
                Achkerov kute.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by surferarmo Language is a small portion of ones culture. I still hold that speaking a language does not serve as identification for a culture. If language did serve as a means of identification, I would be spanish. However, I am not spanish. Holding a language does not make define someone.
                  you wouldn't say that if you knew how to speak Armenian.
                  you're just defending your case.
                  being a grade A Liar...
                  oh I mean politician.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by jahannam you wouldn't say that if you knew how to speak Armenian.
                    you're just defending your case.
                    being a grade A Liar...
                    oh I mean politician.
                    heyyyyy look at my ass...i was born and raised in tulsa, oklahoma where the armenian population was like 50 if that...there was not armenian school...my mom between work and takeing care of the house taught me armenian in the car when we took my sister to piano lessons...now, jahannam you've heard me talk armenian...going to public school (respectable in oklahoma, can't move on past 5th grade without knowing all 50 states and capitals), and growing up without any armenian influence, im not that bad eh? and i take pride in it because politically the small armenian community there got a lot accomplished also! only thing that went bad was my moms reaction when i came home one day with a white girl...hehehe

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by jilbagh heyyyyy look at my ass...i was born and raised in tulsa, oklahoma where the armenian population was like 50 if that...there was not armenian school...my mom between work and takeing care of the house taught me armenian in the car when we took my sister to piano lessons...now, jahannam you've heard me talk armenian...going to public school (respectable in oklahoma, can't move on past 5th grade without knowing all 50 states and capitals), and growing up without any armenian influence, im not that bad eh? and i take pride in it because politically the small armenian community there got a lot accomplished also! only thing that went bad was my moms reaction when i came home one day with a white girl...hehehe
                      Indeed I aplaud your mothers efforts and your own.

                      I spoke Armenian when we came to the States, but I didn't know how to read and write. I learned here, once again, thanks to my mother.

                      It is no wonder that Jews consider someones "Jewishness" according to the mother.
                      Achkerov kute.

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