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  • #11
    Originally posted by patlajan You're all full of crap. The mind and body are one. One can not function well without the other. Neglecting the body in the name of concentrating on the mind is an excuse for your lack of determination, which is a symptom of the weakness of the mind resulting in the suffering of the body.
    You're full of pulp. Idiots win athletic prizes all the time, and geniuses exist that couldn't open a pickle jar.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by patlajan I always liked you.
      That's news to me! Keep on smiling Pat it looks gooood on you.
      The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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      • #13
        I have to agree with the eggplant here.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #14
          you cannot have one and not the other, the mind and the body are forever linked together. They are one.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by loseyourname You're full of pulp. Idiots win athletic prizes all the time, and geniuses exist that couldn't open a pickle jar.
            I forgot what the term in psychology is for inventing negative arguments against people whom you perceive as superior. It is more commonly known as jealousy.

            I would like the name of the "genius" that can't open a jar. Is this person so weak they don't have the strenght of a child? Athletisism is also a type of intelligence.
            Last edited by patlajan; 03-05-2004, 10:17 AM.

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            • #16
              I don't know much about psychology, but there exists a logical fallacy called argumentum ad hominem in which one resorts to insulting and attacking an opponents credibility rather than the argument. Of course, you provided no argument, so what am I left with?

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              • #17
                Well, thank you all for your input. But that's not what I was getting to.

                In theories of Love, we talked about being able to control your emotions-that's where "mind over body" came in.

                so I asked -does the life of the mind, come at the expense of the body.

                Also, I was reading a book, - it was psychoanalysis on Nietzsche. And the writer mentions (regarding his relations and sexuality)-"One could say that his life drives were so mentalized, that almost no life giving eros was left for his body."

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                • #18
                  spiral, what are you talking about? What is the life of the mind and how does it relate to life of the body? One cannot live without the other unless in afterlife or braindeath. I don't think that's what you're getting at.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by spiral Well, thank you all for your input. But that's not what I was getting to.

                    In theories of Love, we talked about being able to control your emotions-that's where "mind over body" came in.

                    so I asked -does the life of the mind, come at the expense of the body.

                    Also, I was reading a book, - it was psychoanalysis on Nietzsche. And the writer mentions (regarding his relations and sexuality)-"One could say that his life drives were so mentalized, that almost no life giving eros was left for his body."
                    Isn't the gist of it the same.... I mean were still talking about how being so driven with our need to succeed with one (body or mind), we neglect the other. I don't understand what you're getting at that's so different... ?
                    The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by ckBejug I think I understand your question... If so, then..... No. I don't think so. The life of the mind sometimes deteriorates faster than the life of the body, other times, it's the other way around. It all depends on the situation. I think in general that the two are inextricably linked. Exercise your mind and body both and they will stay healthy and 'last longer' so to speak, barring any unforseen circumstances. Then there are the diseases that make our minds or our bodies deteriorate, usually one faster than the other. If you are talking about someone with Parkinson's disease for example, the life of the mind comes at the expense of the life of the body. If you are talking about someone with Alzheimer's disease, the life of the body comes at the expense of the life of the mind.
                      Here’s where I’m getting at- ‘Man’, is composed of body and mind. I connect mind and soul together, as one entity, and emotions and body as one entity. The two emerging into a complete being. However, body and emotions can be dissociated from mind and soul.
                      They are of two parallel worlds existing together, but separate.



                      My question is its validity.


                      Has nothing to do with deteriorating , or deiseases.

                      or being able to work out, and elevate your mind.

                      my input on it would be, as I mentioned, both body and mind together make a complete being-
                      However there are two categories- people who give mind the upper hand, and people who give the body the upper hand- hence "mind Over body" or vice versa.

                      am I making sense? its a bit hodgepodge.

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