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  • #21
    high 5 baron maman uti tushiket
    I'm a monstrous mass of vile, foul & corrupted matter.

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    • #22
      When did I ever say completely get rid of ethnic diversity? I said it shouldn't be a consideration. The person you choose to spend your life with should be chosen based on a holistic consideration that takes all of the unique attributes of an individual into account. Ethnicity can add or detract if you have strong opinions about it, but it shouldn't be a determining factor.

      Why would I become a racist, Baron? Honestly, a person's race is the last thing I think about when I think of a person. It really makes no difference to me and it's silly to me that it makes a difference to anyone. I guess I'm just a little more concerned with advancing the cause of the human species, rather than any one particular subgroup. Like I said, I don't like the idea of grouping people at all, especially based on factors that have nothing to do with their own personal choice.

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      • #23
        That said, you are a free individual human being with the right to liberty and with the right to make any decision you feel fit to make that does not harm another individual. If you want to preserve your culture and be gung ho about ethnic unity and linguistic purity, then by all means, do so. I just don't like it when you come in here telling everyone else here that they should be thinking the same way as you. They are their own people and they are free to lean any which way they choose.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by loseyourname
          Perhaps, but it happens. New cultures come out of it.
          No thanks, you can keep it.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by loseyourname
            That said, you are a free individual human being with the right to liberty and with the right to make any decision you feel fit to make that does not harm another individual. If you want to preserve your culture and be gung ho about ethnic unity and linguistic purity, then by all means, do so. I just don't like it when you come in here telling everyone else here that they should be thinking the same way as you. They are their own people and they are free to lean any which way they choose.
            Ah come on. Don't play mr. Open-Minded now. Just a few posts ago, you said that your way of thinking was the only logical way.

            And about the racist comment, my point was that, all those people who advocate for this whole "creation of one people with no ethnic boundaries" and so on, usually use "there will be no racism" as their main argument. I have always found it ironic how the creation of one (probably) english-speaking people with an American culture can not be considered as racism, when it implies the wiping out of hundreds of others of cultures.

            I am not a racist. Anyone who knows me know that. I am actually bothered by racists as we have all seen its results. However, I do feel that on this little blue planet, we Armenians also have our place among all those other people. And the fact that we protected our identity and culture is by no means a sign of blocking out everything else.

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            • #26
              I said the only logical way. I didn't say you weren't free to think otherwise. I respect your view and you are free to hold it. Other Armenians are free to hold views that don't agree with yours. If they aren't as concerned with maintaining the culture, then they aren't. It doesn't make them bad people and it doesn't even make them bad Armenians.

              Again, I don't advocate the creation of one people. I only said that if all people were interracial, then racism would likely die as it would be a little silly at that point. Still, I'm sure people would find other reasons to hate and scapegoat each other. Multiracial doesn't imply "one" people. Each person is an individual and is a product of his unique genetic code and unique upbringing. There will never be "one" people. There will simply be a little blurring of the traditional lines and perhaps, just perhaps, a little less regional unity and a little more global unity. We are destroying this planet, and that should be our major concern.

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              • #27
                This is my last reply for the night and with that I would have to say "Bravo" to you Lose! I wholeheartedly agree with you and admire the eloquence with which you expressed your profound views. Many of us belonging to a particular nationality are blinded by nationalism to look outside of the prescribed by our culture parameters. I for one have always prided myself on being Armenian and always will, however it's a result of that sense of belonging and a longing to relate. Now I see it from a different view, no I can't say that I will support someone just because they are Armenian, but simply because they are a decent individual. It takes the strain off the tremendous disappointment if something goes wrong in the Armenian community and the holistic expectations from our people just because they are Armenian. Preservation of the culture is a matter of time and "fate", some fail, some survive. Preservation of your morals and values is an individual effort.

                Baron, Nationalism and Patriotism ARE the same everywhere. You are wrong Chinese are very nationalistic, which is one of the reasons why they firmly preserved their traditions and culture for so long, yet they are fixated on segregation. I'll elaborate further tomorrow. Bari Gisher.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by loseyourname
                  The only way to end racial tension is to intermingle and to interbreed. When your mom is white and your dad isn't, you realize that it really isn't that big of a deal, and people like Dan start to look ridiculous and antiquated.
                  So let me get this straight, you propose destroying the history, culture and sense of uniqueness that goes with different peoples, by an ever encompassing, McDonald's/State "global" culture, destroying all sense of distinction and diversity for some monoculture in some silly version of a TV sitcom, surrounded by fast food, movies and music, into a nice "one world society".

                  Clearly you are the product of the current State of affairs, not realizing the agenda behind the current thrust of immigration policies that are more and more eroding cultural and racial distinctions. This isn't about establishing a human family together in harmony and respect for each other, for such a belief is illusory and fallacious. It is about an ever increasing power of States to mince peoples and rule peoples more easily than before into a fascist type slave society in which thinking is no more diverse than the mindless monoculture that spawns it.

                  Your idea is historically and culturally blind and deprived, I disagree.
                  Achkerov kute.

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                  • #29
                    Quit being an alarmist. I didn't say one culture, and I even told Baron Dants that I never said one culture or one race. I said people of different races freely intermingling and interbreeding. So no, you don't have it clear.

                    I will no longer respond to these idiotic mischaracterizations of what I say.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by loseyourname
                      The only way to end racial tension is to intermingle and to interbreed. When your mom is white and your dad isn't, you realize that it really isn't that big of a deal, and people like Dan start to look ridiculous and antiquated.
                      Uhmmm.... I bet the Natives would be ALL for intermingling and interbreeding and wiping out their own kind... Talk about jewish propaganda... BULLSH*T!!!

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