Question for Dan

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Did you know that Armenians are notorious for beating up gay guys here?

Sorry but I highly doubt that's true... I am sure there are idiot Armenians that can be found doing anything but making a statement as "Armenians are notorious" for doing that is just wrong.

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Sorry but I highly doubt that's true... I am sure there are idiot Armenians that can be found doing anything but making a statement as "Armenians are notorious" for doing that is just wrong.

Um..yea Seapahn JAN MERNEM BOYIT!!!! IT WAS A JOKE! I only said that so Dan wouldn't come here.

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I only said that so Dan wouldn't come here.

Ok I understand now!!!!

[Sip]

Dan, I am relaying this list of "exceptions" from a friend of yours who thought you may find it interesting ...

Anthropology
Gwaltney, John L,
Harrison, Faye Venetia,

Bacteriology
Poindexter, Hildrus A.,

Biology
Cell Biology

Cobb, Jewell Plummer,
Haynes, John K.,
Langford, George M.,
Murray, Sandra,
Wyche, James Howard,

Embryology

Alexander, Lloyd E.,
Woods, Geraldine Pittman,

Developmental Biology

Craft, Thomas J., Sr.,
Scott, Juanita Simons,
Turner, Charles Henry,

Marine Biology

Jearld, Ambrose, Jr.,
Just, Ernest Everett,
Owens, Joan Murrell,

Microbiology

Brooks, Carolyn Branch,
Fuller, A. Oveta,
Hinton, William Augustus,
Stokes, Gerald V.,
Taylor, Welton I.,
Wiley, William R.,

Chemistry
Bramwell, Fitzgerald B.,
Francisco, Joseph S.,
Hall, Lloyd Augustus,
Wright, Jane C.,

Analytical Chemistry

Mitchell, James W.,
Nelson, Ivory V.,
Williams, Theodore R., Jr.,

Biochemistry

Carver, George W.,
Chappelle, Emmett W.,
Daly, Marie Maynard,
Davis, Leodis,
Ferguson, Lloyd Noel,
Harris, Don Navarro,
Mitchell, Earl D., Jr.,
Tildon, J. Tyson,
Tolbert, Margaret E. M.,
Wiley, William R.,

Inorganic Chemistry

Winbush, Samuel von,

Organic Chemistry

Alexander, Benjamin H.,
Dorman, Linneaus C.,
Elliott, Irving Wesley, Jr.,
Evans, Slayton A., Jr.,
Fraser-Reid, Bertram,
Gillyard, Cornelia Denson,
Hawkins, Walter Lincoln,
Julian, Percy Lavon,
Massie, Samuel Proctor,
McBay, Henry C.,

Physical Chemistry

Henry, Warren, E.,
Jackson, William M.,
King, James, Jr.,
Macklin, John W.,

Theoretical Chemistry

Lester, William A., Jr.,

Education
Craft, Thomas J., Sr.,

Endocrinology
Harrison, Robert W.,

Engineering
Aeronautical Engineering
Harris, Wesley L.,

Mechanical Engineering

Darden, Christine Mann,
Jones, Frederick M.,

Engineering Physics

Gourdine, Meredith C.,
Kornegay, Wade M.,
McNair, Ronald Erwin,
Slaughter, John B.,

Gastrointestinal Systems
Berry, Leonidas,

Genetics
Harris, Mary S.,

Geology
Bromery, Randolph W.,
Gipson, Mack, Jr.,

Mathematics
Blackwell, David Harold,
Granville, Evelyn Boyd,
Hrabowski, Freeman A.,
Stephens, Clarence F.,

Meteorology
Washington, Warren M.,

Nutrition
Kittrell, Flemmie P.,

Parasitology
Eure, Herman,

Pharmacology
Thompson, Emmanuel B.,

Physics
Campbell, George, Jr.,
Drew, James B.,
Mickens, Ronald Elbert,
Washington, Warren M.,
Williams, Willie, Jr.,

Astrophysics

Carruthers, George R.,
Rouse, Carl A.,

Biophysics

Branson, Herman R.,

Theoretical Physics

Jackson, Shirley Ann,
Lewis, H. Ralph,
Massey, Walter E.,
Morrison, Harry L.,
Reed, Kennedy J.,
Wilkins, J. Ernest, Jr.,

Physiology
Carson, Benjamin S., Sr.,
Drew, Charles R.,
Dunbar, Joseph C., Jr.,
Ferguson, Angela D.,
Franklin, Renty B.,
Jemison, Mae C.,
Kountz, Samuel Lee,
Leevy, Carroll M.,
Sullivan, Louis Wade,
Wright, Jane C.,

Animal Physiology

Florant, Gregory L.,

Plant physiology

Carver, George Washington,
Henderson, James H. M.,
Hill, Walter A.,

Psychiatry
Lawrence, Margaret Morgan,

[loseyourname]

Here is a short piece about the Kingdom of Aksum, an early anno domini African civilization (note the part in bold - you might find it familiar if you have seen Raiders of the Lost Ark):

Archaeology in Africa is not just Egyptology, although it does seem that way sometimes. The sub-Saharan societies of Africa flourished in the centuries before and after the time of Christ, and one of those powerful urban kingdoms was Aksum or Axum. The modern city of Aksum is located in the northeastern portion of what is now Ethiopia, on the horn of Africa.

It lies high on a plateau 7200 ft above sea level, and in its heyday, its region of influence included both sides of the Red Sea. An early text shows that trade on the Red Sea coast was active as early as 1st century BC. During the first century AD, Aksum began a rapid rise to prominence, trading its agricultural resources and its gold and ivory through the port of Adulis into the Red Sea trade network and thence to the Roman Empire. Trade through Adulis connected eastward to India as well, providing Aksum and its rulers a profitable connection between Rome and the east.

One reason we know what we do about Aksum is the importance placed on written documents by its rulers, particularly Ezana or Aezianas. In the early 4th century AD, Ezana spread his realm north and east, conquering the Nile Valley realm of Meroe and becoming ruler over part of both Asia and Africa. He constructed much of the monumental architecture of Aksum, including a reported 100 stone obelisks, the tallest of which loomed 98 ft over the cemetery in which it stood and weighed 517 tons. Ezana is also known for converting much of Ethiopia to Christianity, around 330 AD. One legend has it that the Ark of the Covenant containing the remnants of the 10 commandments of Moses was brought to Aksum, and Coptic monks have protected it ever since.

Archaeological excavations at Aksum were first undertaken by Littman in 1906, and concentrated on the monuments and the elite cemeteries. The British Institute in Eastern Africa excavated at Aksum beginning in the 1970s, part of which excavation is described by one of the directors, Stuart Munro-Hay.

Aksum flourished until the 6th century AD, maintaining its trade connections and a high literacy rate, minting its own coins, and building monumental architecture. With the rise of the Persian empire in the 6th century AD, the Arabic world redrew the map of Asia and excluded the realm of Aksum from its trade network, and Aksum fell in importance. For the most part, the obelisks built by Ezana were destroyed; with one exception, which was looted in the 1930s by Benito Mussolini, and erected in Rome. As of this writing (March 2004), the obelisk is currently sitting in a warehouse near Rome's Fiumicino airport awaiting transport back to Ethiopia.

[Darorinag]

Dan, I am relaying this list of "exceptions" from a friend of yours who thought you may find it interesting ...

They are still exceptions...

[Sip]

They are still exceptions...

Here are a few more to add to your collection of exceptions ... from the same friend. These are some "exceptional" famous black orchestral composers.

Akpabot, Samuel
Amu, Ephraim
Bankole, Ayo
El-Dabh, Halim
Euba, Akin
Nketia, Joseph Hanson Kwabena
Turkson, Ato Alphonso
Adams, Leslie H.
Anderson, Thomas Jefferson
Baker, David
Batiste, Alvin
Belaka, O'Sai Tutu (Charles Bell, Sr.)
Bland, Edward Osmund
Brown, Uzee
Carter, Warwick L.
Clark, Edgar Rogie
Clay, Omar
Cloud, Lee Vernell
Cunningham, Arthur
Da Costa, Noel G.
Dédé, Edmund
Dennis, Mark Andrew, Jr.
xxxxerson, Roger Donald
Duncan, John
Fischer, William S.
Fountain, Primous,
Furman, James B.
Hailstork, Adolphus Cunningham,
Hakim, Talib Rasul
Hammond, Douglas
Hanxxxx, Eugene Wilson
Handy, Dorothy Antoinette
Harris, Robert A.
Hayes, Joseph
Holden, James, Jr.
Holland, Justin Minor
Holmes, Robert L.
Humble, K.
Jeffers, George
Jenkins, Leroy
Johnson, Frank
Johnson, James Louis
Kay, Ulysses Simpson
Kennedy, Joseph J., Jr.
Kerr, Thomas H., Jr.
Lambert, Lucien
Lampley, Calvin Douglas
Lateef, Yusef
Lewis, John Aaron
Logan, Wendell Morris
McCall, Maurice Henderson
McCreary, Richard Deming, Jr.
McDaniels, William Foster
McLean, Hamilton G.
McLin, Lena Johnson
Mells, Herbert Franklin
Mitchell, Roscoe
Moore, Carman Leroy
Moore, Dorothy Rudd
Moore, Kermit
Moore, Undine Smith
Nelson, Kalvert Jalalu
Nelson, Oliver Edward
Perry, Julia Amanda
Pickett, Donald
Price, Florence Beatrice Smith
Price, John Elwood
Rollins, Theodore Walter
Singleton, Alvin
Smith, Hale
Stewart, Earl L.
Still, William Grant
Swanson, Howard
Thomas, Russell, Jr.
Tillis, Fredrick Charles
Tyler, Robert
Walker, George Theophilus
White, Andrew N.,
White, Clarence Cameron
Williams, Kimo Lafayette
Wilson, Olly
Cordero, Roque
Gutiérrez y Espinosa, Felipe
Leon, Tania J.
Roldan, Amadeo
Bridgetower, George Polgreen
Camilleri, Charles
Coleridge-Taylor, Samuel
Saint-Georges, Chevalier de (Joseph Boulogne)
Sancho, Ignatius

[Darorinag]

Your logic truly sucks for someone who boasts of knowing so much about computers, etc. What does this prove? Only if you can prove that their numbers are equal to white scientists'/contributors' numbers or proportional to the population numbers can you prove that they have contributed as much as white people.

[Anonymouse]

Let's face it, there has never been any high black civilization in sub-Saharan black Africa. It is not naming names of who can name more names, or cheap IQ tests, but the historical performance of a people that establishes differences.

[Sip]

Your logic truly sucks for someone who boasts of knowing so much about computers, etc. What does this prove?

Hey don't shoot the messenger and leave the personal insults out of it. No reason to turn this thread into a personal bashing of anyone other than you. Here's some more exceptions (forwarded from the same person) for your enjoyment:


More famous Black Scientists.


Biochemists

Herman Branson
George Washington Carver
Emmett W. Chappelle
Marie M. Daly
Lloyd Hall
Ernest E. Just
Samuel Lee Kountz, Jr.
James Sumner Lee
Dorothy McClendon
Ruth Ella Moore
Kenneth Olden
Ida Owens
Maurice Rabb


Biologists

William Michael Bright
Hyman Yates Chase
Jewel Plummer Cobb
Alfred O. Coffin
Dale Emeagwali
Mary Styles Harris
Jehu Callis Hunter
Ernest Everett Just
James Sumner Lee
Roger Arliner Young
Kenneth Olden


Chemists

Albert C. Antoine
Thomas Nelson Baker, Jr.
St. Elmo Brady
E. Luther Brookes
Edward M.A. Chandler
George Washington Carver
John R. Cooper
Lloyd Hall
James Harris
Henry Aaron Hill
John Edward Hodge
John McNeile Hunter
Elmer Samuel Imes
Lovell A. Jones
Percy Lavon Julian
Ernest Just
James Lu Valle
Samuel Proctor Massie, Jr.
Henry Cecil Ransom McBay
Norbert Rillieux
Edwin R. Russell
Moddie Daniel Taylor
Charles Turner
Isiah M. Warner
E. Oscar Woolfolk


Physicists

George E. Alcorn
Edward Bouchet
Robert Henry Bragg
Herman R. Branson
George R. Carruthers
Ernest Coleman
John William Coleman
Stanley Peter Davis
Meredith C. Gourdine
John McNeile Hunter
Elmer Samuel Imes
Shirley Ann Jackson
Katherine G. Johnson
Roscoe L. Koontz
Walter Eugene Massey
Louis W. Roberts
Lynn Ernest Roberts
Earl Shaw
John B. Slaughter
Lawnie Taylor
Herman Thomas
J. Ernest Wilkins, Jr.


Engineers

Archibald Alexander
Albert C. Antoine
David Crosthwait
Clarence Elder
Roscoe C. Giles
Meredith C. Gourdine
Campbell Johnson
Lewis Howard Latimer
Frederick McD. Massiah
Caldwell McCoy
Elijah McCoy
Garrett A. Morgan
Percy A. Pierre
John B. Slaughter
Virgil Trice
O.S. (Ozzie) Williams


Entomologists

Madison Spencer Briscoe
Vivian Murray Chambers
Herman Glen Cooke
Leon Roddy
Charles Turner


Geneticists

James E. Bowman, Jr.
Thomas Price Dooley
Mary Styles Harris
Reuban A. Munday
Robert F. Murray, Jr.


Inventors

George E. Alcorn
Sharon J. Barnes
Benjamin Bradley
Otis Boykin
George Washington Carver
Clarence Elder
Frederick M. Jones
Lewis Howard Latimer
Elijah McCoy
Garrett A. Morgan
John P. Parker
Norbert Rillieux
Rufus Stokes
Madame C.J. Walker
Granville T. Woods


Mathematicians

Benjamin Banneker
Sister Mary S. Deconge
Annie Easley
Evelyn Boyd Granville
Katherine G. Johnson
Percy A. Pierre
Louis W. Roberts
J. Ernest Wilkins
Scott Williams


Computer Scientists

Clarence A. "Skip" Ellis
Annie Easley
Philip Emeagwali
Roscoe C. Giles
Bryant W. York


Meteorologists

Charles E. Anderson
June Bacon-Bercey
Bryan Busby
E. Don Sarreals
James Tilmon
Warren Washington


Medical

Benjamin S. Carson
Rebecca J. Cole
Albert G. Crenshaw
Charles R. Drew
Mae C. Jemison
Roscoe L. Koontz
Samuel L. Kountz
William A. Hinton
Lovell A. Jones
Maurice Rabb
Vivien T. Thomas
Daniel Hale Williams


Veterinarians

Raleigh H. Allen
Wendell O. Belfield
Roger D. Estep
Augustus N. Lushington
Frederick D. Patterson
Theodore S. Williams
Thomas G. Perry


Geologists

Marguerite T. Williams


Oceanographer

Evan B. Forde


Protozoologists

Harold Eugene Finley
Norvell Witherspoon Hunter
James Warren Lee
William Henry McArthur


Zoologists

William Michael Bright
Hyman Yates Chase
Alfred O. Coffin
Herman Glen Cooke
Jehu Callis Hunter
Norvell Witherspoon Hunter
Ernest Everett Just
James Warren Lee
Charles Henry Turner
Roger Arliner Young