Kerry, Bush and Armenians

[Anonymouse]

Last time I checked this political race wasnt about which president will support the Armenians and their ongoing hope of Genocide Recognition...as much as I want it to be, it just isn't. I think its time for us to recognize what these two boneheads (Kerry and Bush) can offer us as American citizens rather than Armenians. Especially at a time like this, with the constant threat of another terroist attack, with the struggle of keeping Iraq in shape, and trying to find Bin Ladin (if he is even still out there) we need to think of ourselves as Americans rather than as Armenians, Asians, Hispanics, African-Americans, whites, etc. Cause right now the main issue is the future of this great nation. As much as some of you have sh*t to say about the US, its the one nation that opened its arms to you, or your parents, or your grandparents when everyone else turned their backs. While some people wait around and try to figure out which pres is going to support the Armenian people, I'm going to base my voting decision on which pres offers the best improvement of the economy, opening more jobs in the states, better and cheaper education, and defiently cheaper health care!

There is nothing wrong with opening arms, there is something wrong with being a warmongering empire. That is no excuse to support it. I love your innocent worldview on this, but this "terrorist thread" was created and fueled by this great nation, which it might appear after a careful review of the facts, isn't so great abroad.

[Anonymouse]

Last time I checked this political race wasnt about which president will support the Armenians and their ongoing hope of Genocide Recognition...as much as I want it to be, it just isn't. I think its time for us to recognize what these two boneheads (Kerry and Bush) can offer us as American citizens rather than Armenians. Especially at a time like this, with the constant threat of another terroist attack, with the struggle of keeping Iraq in shape, and trying to find Bin Ladin (if he is even still out there) we need to think of ourselves as Americans rather than as Armenians, Asians, Hispanics, African-Americans, whites, etc. Cause right now the main issue is the future of this great nation. As much as some of you have sh*t to say about the US, its the one nation that opened its arms to you, or your parents, or your grandparents when everyone else turned their backs. While some people wait around and try to figure out which pres is going to support the Armenian people, I'm going to base my voting decision on which pres offers the best improvement of the economy, opening more jobs in the states, better and cheaper education, and defiently cheaper health care!

Presidents don't improve economies, or open jobs, they destroy it, that is economics 101.

[loseyourname]

Harding created a job for every friend he ever had.

[Anonymouse]

Harding created a job for every friend he ever had.

If you wanna put it that way, even Bush did that.

[Darorinag]

Inna - with all due respect, your political views are a bit too naive.. The entire "terrorist threat" issue is nothing but manipulation and fear mongering.. this makes things easier for them, as they can pass laws that further limit freedom of speech and violate the privacy of individuals [such as the Patriot Act] without much objection (of course, philosophically speaking, since privacy is a government-given privilege rather than a natural right, it wouldn't be wrong to take it away, per se - but when violation of privacy results in random arrests and violation of the right to freedom, that's when there is a problem)..

[surferarmo]

For a long time I was wondering if a majority of Armenians are Republican or Democratic. At first you'd think democrat because usually democrats cater to the needs of minorities, but I've notices that a very good portion of Armenians (that I know anyway) are Republicans. Thoughts?

Also, a lot of the Armenians I know are putting down Kerry and rooting for Bush. Well.. read this ANCA Endorses John Kerry for President

I was shocked when I read this stuff myself, so I'm not too hard on Armenians who wanted to vote for the cowboy before... but honestly, any Armenian who reads this and is still pro-bush absolutely sickens me... and I hope that doesn't include any of you.

You are an absolute moron. ANCA has fallen victim to the democratic party and its ability to turn ethnic groups into interest groups. The Democratic party uses racial rhetoric to buy your vote, when in fact they owe most all ethnic groups a written apology. You must understand that living in this country makes you an American with "x" ancestory (American w/ Armenian ancestory). Everyone here has an immigrant relative at some point in their family history, and it sickens me that most people have identity issues; this would include people like yourself. We live in AMERICA, we have issues and lives to live here in this country.

I am a strong supporter of having the genocide recognized, but I pose a question to you, who cares if America recognizes the genocide? The country that has to do that is Turkey. So why are you mad at America, maybe you should direct your anger/political discontent towards those who committed the genocide and those who continue to live in a world of denial. ANCA Reps have even mentioned that Pres. Bush has been among the most progressive in speaking of the genocide, recognizing them as atrocities, although, like all Presidents before him, failed to use the word "genocide." Every President since that fateful time has sent mailers to Armenians, promising to recognize those tragic and horrific events, including your favorite liar, Bill Clinton. It sickens me to see that some people are trying to turn this country into an ATM machine or political device for the country of their ancestory. Armenians especially blame other people of other ethnic groups for being selfish and having control of this country. Whether you believe that is true or not, is not the issue, but why would you want Armenian Americans to become an interest group?

I did not read the article yet, but I will when I get to a computer that is faster with loading.

[surferarmo]

Last time I checked this political race wasnt about which president will support the Armenians and their ongoing hope of Genocide Recognition...as much as I want it to be, it just isn't. I think its time for us to recognize what these two boneheads (Kerry and Bush) can offer us as American citizens rather than Armenians. Especially at a time like this, with the constant threat of another terroist attack, with the struggle of keeping Iraq in shape, and trying to find Bin Ladin (if he is even still out there) we need to think of ourselves as Americans rather than as Armenians, Asians, Hispanics, African-Americans, whites, etc. Cause right now the main issue is the future of this great nation. As much as some of you have sh*t to say about the US, its the one nation that opened its arms to you, or your parents, or your grandparents when everyone else turned their backs. While some people wait around and try to figure out which pres is going to support the Armenian people, I'm going to base my voting decision on which pres offers the best improvement of the economy, opening more jobs in the states, better and cheaper education, and defiently cheaper health care!

The sound of reason. I do not know whether you support the President or not, but this is how people should think when making their decision.

[Darorinag]

It matters only because America is a big ally of Turkey.

[surferarmo]

There is nothing wrong with opening arms, there is something wrong with being a warmongering empire. That is no excuse to support it. I love your innocent worldview on this, but this "terrorist thread" was created and fueled by this great nation, which it might appear after a careful review of the facts, isn't so great abroad.

Anon, we meet again.

This nation is, in fact, doing what nations are supposed to do. Nations and States and/or nation-states are founded for the primary reason of defense. I find it hard to believe your portrayal as the U.S. being the only offensive country in the entire world. That notion is simply ridiculous. If you decide to maintain that wild irrational thought then I say to you, that you are absolutely wrong. But I encourage you to keep that thought and think that offense is also a good defense.

[dusken]

Any Armenian who justifies his voting for Kerry as being the result of Bush's bad record, is an idiot, and deserves to be called that. Neither of us argued IN FAVOUR of voting for Bush... so what is your point??? Bush WAS pro-Armenian before the election. Read this, also from ANCA. So what makes you sure that Kerry wouldn't do the same thing? How can you endorse Kerry, not knowing his REAL stance on the Armenian issue? What Armenians fail to understand is that American politics is
not about *a* man, it's about a drawn plan and certain policies.

I believe the idea is that you would vote for the one who might help as opposed to the one you know would not. It seems pretty simple to me. There is no guarantee other than Bush is an evolutionary mishap sheilded by a seal who is of no help at all. If someone is going to vote, it is either to help Bush maintain presidency, or help Kerry take it over. There is no other choice besides not voting at all.