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  • #21
    I think deep down I know I would have been a lot happier if I weren't agnostic. I would have had something to believe in. If there had to be one main thing to keep me going in this life when all else has failed it would be to live for someone else, to bring happpiness to someones life knowing they wouldn't be able to live without you. Sounds corny I know but that's the way it is.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by omniscient
      I think deep down I know I would have been a lot happier if I weren't agnostic. I would have had something to believe in. If there had to be one main thing to keep me going in this life when all else has failed it would be to live for someone else, to bring happpiness to someones life knowing they wouldn't be able to live without you. Sounds corny I know but that's the way it is.

      wow, it's never too late

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      • #23
        The only reason that I live is because I was born. I wished, wish and will wish to had the power to choose not to be a human, but an alien.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Crimson Glow
          Yeah....I've made such posts many times before....but I'd always get this wierdo who would call ME crazy for questioning such things, and breaking down the social order of existence. He'd say there is no such thing to wake up from, and to just go along with it, failing to realize we ask very similar questions, but merely answer them in different ways. Wonder where that guy went....
          You took it a little too far with your Matrix philosophy, and how everything is fake and we are in a prison. You missed the essence of my post. I am not inquiring whether or not we are robotic sheep trapped under the tyranny of a few who manipulate the Matrix, I am asking a simple question that goes to the heart of why we are here and what you believe.

          That isn't to say we shouldn't question. Everything within us and without us ought to stir our minds to admiration and wonder for we are a mystery within mysteries. What can one point to that is not a mystery in someway? The simple connection of mind with matter is a mystery, as is the power of thought, as are memories and dreams which are indistinct echoes of dead memories, but question we shall.
          Last edited by Anonymouse; 08-29-2004, 02:08 PM.
          Achkerov kute.

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          • #25
            we are here simply to spread love and reach a higher level of consciousness and become more Godlike (that is the ultimate goal for all of us, but individually we learn different lessons, different set of circumstances which all converge to the core of why we are here)...it's hard! and painful at times! to let go of the ego...

            the challenge of life is to always be loving and God like with our words and our actions, and we all fall short of this, thus we are human, not God...kind o' reminds me of that slogan WWJD? (what would Jesus do)

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            • #26
              Originally posted by hyebruin
              we are here simply to spread love and reach a higher level of consciousness and become more Godlike (that is the ultimate goal for all of us, but individually we learn different lessons, different set of circumstances which all converge to the core of why we are here)...it's hard! and painful at times! to let go of the ego...

              the challenge of life is to always be loving and God like with our words and our actions, and we all fall short of this, thus we are human, not God...kind o' reminds me of that slogan WWJD? (what would Jesus do)
              While the ego is enough to thwart man from the common goal, the purpose of all religion is humility, hence the belief in God, in family, in loving kindness, which are hallmarks of selflessness not selfishness, for as omniscient pointed it out, it is living for something or someone other than yourself. Thus, to those with the erroneous opinion that man is only a selfish being, you have only to look at your parents and the sacrifices they have made to understand the selflessness of love. We are selfish, and altruistic, for striking out one while keeping the other would be striking out a principle of human nature.

              However, the point of this thread was more geared to what is the purpose of all this running around? Why do we seek success, status, or even wealth and influence? The toss up was between practicality and spirituality. And I think thus far we all realize that it would be an empty quest merely seeking to acquire wealth or become successful and have your efforts and work pay off, if you did not intend to pursue lofty goals to live past your life or have spiritual ends in sight. It is the soul reaching out and asking for freedom.
              Achkerov kute.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by XxgoeyxX
                Funny thats what my religious studies professor said in my Buddhism class.

                Oo and I agree!
                Are you serious?

                I didn't take that from anywhere, I thought of that and wrote it down in my post.

                I tend to get a bit philosophical at times when the moment comes.

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                • #28
                  well, that's 'simple!'...on our quest for happiness we pursue wealth, career, status, fame, "love" ...etc. it's seeking 'what's out there' to fulfill 'what's in here' (the heart).

                  while these material things do bring some level of happiness and joy and excitement and ecstacy...they often don't last; thus our perpetual quest for things outside to fulfill that which is satiated only by looking within...

                  i.e. looking good or looking good in a newer car, or being with a great looking person, or a better paying job or a job with more prestige than the next person are all potential reasons that put us in this crazy race to 'get there'..wherever 'there' is!

                  it's all an attempt to buy inner peace! again the source of which is internal, yet we continually seek the outside world to fulfill it...

                  it's like love...the only place you know it dwells is within your own heart; everything else is an illusion and only a perception; doesn't mean other people cannot love us, it just means that to truely KNOW love and inner peace one needs to look within himself/herself; no one else can describe it for you or explain it to you!

                  all poems and essays and works of art and music merely evoke what we already have within us, for we are all beings of light; often it is said we came from dust, but if you really think about it, we are of the light and it is that light that binds us all and enables us to feel empathy and compassion for those we've never met simply because they are part of our human family; it is a loving light emanating kindess and peace; only if we were more aligned with our loving nature this world would be paradise...

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by hyebruin
                    well, that's 'simple!'...on our quest for happiness we pursue wealth, career, status, fame, "love" ...etc. it's seeking 'what's out there' to fulfill 'what's in here' (the heart).

                    while these material things do bring some level of happiness and joy and excitement and ecstacy...they often don't last; thus our perpetual quest for things outside to fulfill that which is satiated only by looking within...

                    i.e. looking good or looking good in a newer car, or being with a great looking person, or a better paying job or a job with more prestige than the next person are all potential reasons that put us in this crazy race to 'get there'..wherever 'there' is!

                    it's all an attempt to buy inner peace! again the source of which is internal, yet we continually seek the outside world to fulfill it...

                    it's like love...the only place you know it dwells is within your own heart; everything else is an illusion and only a perception; doesn't mean other people cannot love us, it just means that to truely KNOW love and inner peace one needs to look within himself/herself; no one else can describe it for you or explain it to you!

                    all poems and essays and works of art and music merely evoke what we already have within us, for we are all beings of light; often it is said we came from dust, but if you really think about it, we are of the light and it is that light that binds us all and enables us to feel empathy and compassion for those we've never met simply because they are part of our human family; it is a loving light emanating kindess and peace; only if we were more aligned with our loving nature this world would be paradise...
                    Yup...quite true.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Genuine_Stud
                      Are you serious?

                      I didn't take that from anywhere, I thought of that and wrote it down in my post.

                      I tend to get a bit philosophical at times when the moment comes.

                      Lol she didnt say it in those words. But the whole semester we talked about why we are human, what makes us human and divine. so what you wrote was just what we came up with at the end.
                      You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.

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