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yeah i've seen it on Ebums world before he took it off...sometimes i think it's BS soemthins i dont....i duno...it might be BS....and then again...didnt they find an engine of a plain?
I've seen this before. Indeed, it is a very possible scenario. I was reading this 911 conspiracy before any of you obviously due to my weird, paranoid, loser nature.
You should check out the stuff about remote controlled planes.
Well, first off here is a simple explanation of this hole, which appears in the 4th section-semicircle. This is caused by the blast waves, if you have any knowledge of the strength of concentrated blast waves, you can easily understand how this is possible. Blast waves This link has exausted the idea and explanatio of blast waves.. iv briefly sutdied them in thermo dynamics, as well as fluid dynamics.
The leading theory is that a Global Hawk painted to resemble a 757 or a Cruise missile using holographic technology slammed into the wall. If a 60 tonne 757 hit the wall, the wall wouldn't be there.
Incorrect, there is no such holographic technology.. though this is a theory, they stil must base it on possible scenerios... The construction of the building back in 43 was reamped after initial plans, and the collums were nearly doubled with the amount, and size of re-bar used.. the building is actually not 5 pieces at all.. it is devided into 12 pieces by gaps specially made for the building's shrinkage capabilities in heat or cold. This is the part where the building collapsed on one side, it is exactly where one of these gaps previously was. These gaps also acted as "give" (as we understand it) when the plane hit the first wall. The blast initially took out exactly 13 collumns it the planes path, the wreckage shows that the collumns hit by the the inner part of the wings were severly damaged yet not tottally collapsed, though ofcourse completely useless in its function at that point. What kept the building up for as long as it stayed was the construction of the pilons, and the extremely well ties to the base (foundation) of the building.
The initial hole of the crash was estimated at about 65 feet, the building is almost 80 ft tall... the planes wings were shatter to pieces at that speed while it hit the building, and left wing infact left a large indentation in the ground, about a 3 foot deep scar, and parts of the wing WERE infact carried away from the wreckage.
This picture shows that to be true.
Anyways, tht was that.. though i still see many explanations lacking.. and infact some very convincing arguements for it to be a conspiracy of some sort.. I guess the same blast waves could have propegated the same blast holes above...
this reader Letter of Confidential Information — Faits & Documents by Emmanuel Ratier has rather intresting arguements, though ofcourse much based on "theory" and not too many hard facts. I havent read it myself in its entirity....
I also found this on the web.. rather interesting..
By what means could a plane with a wingspan of 125 ft and a length of 155 ft fly into a building, leaving a hole 65 ft by 65 ft, leaving no significant wreckage outside? Is it possible to calculate a wing angle at which the plane might have fitted through? If not, where is the wreckage that did not enter the building?
By the way.. allegedly the "black-box" was retrieved from the wreckage and the flight pattern shows that the plane hit the building at a final recorded angle yawning to the left, i dont remember the exact angle.
How do you hurt a masochist?
-By leaving him alone.Forever.
Well, first off here is a simple explanation of this hole, which appears in the 4th section-semicircle. This is caused by the blast waves, if you have any knowledge of the strength of concentrated blast waves, you can easily understand how this is possible. Blast waves This link has exausted the idea and explanatio of blast waves.. iv briefly sutdied them in thermo dynamics, as well as fluid dynamics.
Incorrect, there is no such holographic technology.. though this is a theory, they stil must base it on possible scenerios... The construction of the building back in 43 was reamped after initial plans, and the collums were nearly doubled with the amount, and size of re-bar used.. the building is actually not 5 pieces at all.. it is devided into 12 pieces by gaps specially made for the building's shrinkage capabilities in heat or cold. This is the part where the building collapsed on one side, it is exactly where one of these gaps previously was. These gaps also acted as "give" (as we understand it) when the plane hit the first wall. The blast initially took out exactly 13 collumns it the planes path, the wreckage shows that the collumns hit by the the inner part of the wings were severly damaged yet not tottally collapsed, though ofcourse completely useless in its function at that point. What kept the building up for as long as it stayed was the construction of the pilons, and the extremely well ties to the base (foundation) of the building.
The initial hole of the crash was estimated at about 65 feet, the building is almost 80 ft tall... the planes wings were shatter to pieces at that speed while it hit the building, and left wing infact left a large indentation in the ground, about a 3 foot deep scar, and parts of the wing WERE infact carried away from the wreckage.
This picture shows that to be true.
Anyways, tht was that.. though i still see many explanations lacking.. and infact some very convincing arguements for it to be a conspiracy of some sort.. I guess the same blast waves could have propegated the same blast holes above...
this reader Letter of Confidential Information — Faits & Documents by Emmanuel Ratier has rather intresting arguements, though ofcourse much based on "theory" and not too many hard facts. I havent read it myself in its entirity....
I also found this on the web.. rather interesting.. FULL ARTICLE
By the way.. allegedly the "black-box" was retrieved from the wreckage and the flight pattern shows that the plane hit the building at a final recorded angle yawning to the left, i dont remember the exact angle.
Now, I'm not familiar with blast waves or thermodynamics, but the puzzle doesn't fit. That hole was not the only one, as diagnally it was found in the other side of the pentagon. How does one explain that? Furthermore, why was no black box recovered? It's funny how the "authorities" found statements of the terrorists from the crash sites, passports and such, yet the black box didn't survive.
If you think this is weird, you should read the theories of how the planes were remote controlled and the world trade center was wired with explosives and blown from inside.
It should also be noted that those who survived in the explosion, those in the path of the airplane in the further sections, they reported that they were sprayed with what smelled like fuel, this would be the jet fuel which in the impact went forward and sprayed beyong the planes resting area, AFTER the shockwave blast which opened holes in the walls ahead.. now.. if these people are liong or not.. i have no idea.. because a missile can not infact spray fuel in such a manner.. also.. it is worthy to note the destruction of a missil would be far different, we can compare that to the many pictures we have seen of missiles into buildings during military operations..
ALSO.. It is worthy to note that the hole which has penetrated through the 4 sections, and which i beleive is due to a shock wave cannot be from a missile traveling that distance into the building.. this is because there are two kinds of missiles, those which explode and incinerate on impact, and those which are called "bunker-busters" which penetrate deep into walls and bunkers and explode only after they are a certain distance traveled into the barrier. Now, if this was a missile, then it obviously exploded on impact.. so how would it also travel the 4 sections and creat that hole??? perhaps it was the fact it created the large shock wave.. as i said above.. but more thinkign would make it prevailent that such missiles, of this relative magnitude cannot creat the type of shockawave as can the impact of 296 k pounds of airplane with bot explosive force as well as its force from the velocity it had. This is going to creat a million theories.. lol...
How do you hurt a masochist?
-By leaving him alone.Forever.
Now, I'm not familiar with blast waves or thermodynamics, but the puzzle doesn't fit. That hole was not the only one, as diagnally it was found in the other side of the pentagon. How does one explain that? Furthermore, why was no black box recovered? It's funny how the "authorities" found statements of the terrorists from the crash sites, passports and such, yet the black box didn't survive.
If you think this is weird, you should read the theories of how the planes were remote controlled and the world trade center was wired with explosives and blown from inside.
Ok, perhaps a misunderstanding.. but i was at the impression the blackbox was recovered and the path saved by the blackbox exactly matched that of flight control and the angle and elevation it last recored would have made it little over 2 feet above ground level and some angle yawned to the left.... as far as the other conspiracies.. people can come up with anything they want.. lol...
PS: How am i gonna get back the 20 minutes i spent on this!!!! I hate school
It should also be noted that those who survived in the explosion, those in the path of the airplane in the further sections, they reported that they were sprayed with what smelled like fuel, this would be the jet fuel which in the impact went forward and sprayed beyong the planes resting area, AFTER the shockwave blast which opened holes in the walls ahead.. now.. if these people are liong or not.. i have no idea.. because a missile can not infact spray fuel in such a manner.. also.. it is worthy to note the destruction of a missil would be far different, we can compare that to the many pictures we have seen of missiles into buildings during military operations..
ALSO.. It is worthy to note that the hole which has penetrated through the 4 sections, and which i beleive is due to a shock wave cannot be from a missile traveling that distance into the building.. this is because there are two kinds of missiles, those which explode and incinerate on impact, and those which are called "bunker-busters" which penetrate deep into walls and bunkers and explode only after they are a certain distance traveled into the barrier. Now, if this was a missile, then it obviously exploded on impact.. so how would it also travel the 4 sections and creat that hole??? perhaps it was the fact it created the large shock wave.. as i said above.. but more thinkign would make it prevailent that such missiles, of this relative magnitude cannot creat the type of shockawave as can the impact of 296 k pounds of airplane with bot explosive force as well as its force from the velocity it had. This is going to creat a million theories.. lol...
And how do we explain the witnesses who claim to have seen a missle and heard a missle, and never a plane? Let's not forget how Flight 77 disappeared from radar.
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