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A Rational Choice For November 2nd
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loseyourname that is exactly what i mean... dont just complain, do something... if you see a problem, show me the cause and the proposed solution...
if you anony, truly feel that you have no power, then why are you still living? why even complain? why are you posting something that you beleive will not change anything...
sorry for calling you a moron, i was a little angry at the time...
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so you agree with him? i dont understand how we can look at the same thing, i can say yes this is the case, and then he will say yes it is this, but you are wrong nune... ??? i dont get? he is like bush... lies... we look at the same thing, come to the same conclusion, but because i am saying it says he disagrees, then he goes through this long process of BS talk, and somehow makes people believe that he is smart... if he was he wouldnt keep trying to put other people down just to make himself look better...
i dont get it
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Originally posted by loseyournameLook, if not voting makes any of you feel better, then feel free. But even if no one voted, each election would simply be decided by the electoral college. Each elector is appointed by the assembly of each state. State assemblymen would be elected based on whoever had the largest family, as they would almost certainly vote even if no one else did.?
Originally posted by loseyournameEven if you feel voting is unethical because you are telling someone else what to do, the only choices you have are to either tell others what to do, or to be told what to do. Government isn't going away unless by violent overthrow, and if you consider voting to be an unethical form of aggression, then what do you consider violent revolution to be?
Originally posted by loseyournameEnough with the idiot and nerfbrain comments, too. Can't we at least keep the serious discussions serious? If you really want to make a statement, why don't you try introducing a ballot proposition next time dictating the abolition of all California government. See how many signatures you could collect. As Nune keeps telling you, do something, anything.
This assumption goes back down to the basics of believing voting changes things, which it doesn't. Voting is only deemed for government, not the absence of it. I have already explained that voting doesn't change anything, for if it did, it would be illegal, as Biafra of the Dead Kennedys said. No matter how you vote and for what, the government always gets elected.
Originally posted by loseyournameWhether or not voting in a presidential election will change anything is a dubious question, especially in a state that almost always swings democratic by landslide numbers, but to say that all voting is useless is pretty sweeping. But to say that no vote makes any difference is an untrue generalization.
"Before I argue this point, let’s change the context so we’re not biased. Suppose your coworker takes off some time on November 2, in order to drive out to the woods and carve "GWB" on a tree. When he got back to work, you would naturally ask him what in the world he was doing. Suppose he answered, "Oh, I really feel that George Bush will take this country in a better direction than Kerry would."
At this point, you would point out that carving Bush’s initials on a tree doesn’t affect which person becomes president; regardless of how much better your coworker considers Bush, his actions were still ludicrous.
Well folks, it’s the exact same thing with voting. There is just about a zero percent chance that your vote will make a difference in whether Bush or Kerry is elected. The only way that your vote can matter is if the Electoral vote is close enough so that the Electoral votes in your state determine the race, and if the popular vote in your state is decided by a margin of exactly one.
This last part is crucial, so let me elaborate: Even if the rest of the Electoral votes are close enough, so that whichever candidate wins your home state wins the election, your vote still would not matter if Bush got (say) 10 million votes in your state, while Kerry got 9,999,998. Suppose you are a Bush supporter. Then even if you had stayed home and not cast your vote for Bush, he still would have won the popular vote in your state (by one) and hence the election. Suppose you are a Kerry supporter. Even though you cast your vote for him, Bush still won. So clearly you could have stayed home and been better off.
Thus we see that the act of voting confers virtually no benefit, as far as influencing the outcome of the election. So if you want to say that you like to vote because it makes you feel important, or because it’s sorta neat inside those little booths, fair enough. But if you say that you’re voting this time because the election is an important one, well, that’s as silly as carving a candidate’s initials in a tree."What about the vote for Prop 13? Had that not been passed, there would be no cap on California property taxes, they would be much higher, and due to the very high value of real estate in the LA area, many homeowners that had paid off their houses while prices were much lower would no longer be able to afford the taxes and would be forced to move to cheaper neighborhoods.
If Measure A is passed, it will greatly increase the manpower of the LAPD. Is a doubled police force not a meaningful change?
Heck, the entire Civil War hinged on the election of Abraham Lincoln. Had he not been elected (and the election was very close), South Carolina would likely not have seceded, nor would any of the other southern states.
Had Thomas Jefferson (a man with a unique relationship to the country of France) not been elected, the US might never have acquired the Louisiana Territory, which accounts for half of the contiguous states. Is that not a meaningful difference?Achkerov kute.
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Originally posted by nunechkaloseyourname that is exactly what i mean... dont just complain, do something... if you see a problem, show me the cause and the proposed solution...
if you anony, truly feel that you have no power, then why are you still living? why even complain? why are you posting something that you beleive will not change anything...
sorry for calling you a moron, i was a little angry at the time...Achkerov kute.
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Arman, de mihat shunch kashi.. ......... apress.. mikichel jur xemi... etkan gerem ke vatanam ara.. gena durs u mekin tsetsi,,, kam vochinch miara, bayts gen durs!!!.. shat haves unes mek mek bayts.. yernek kezi...HAHAHA.....How do you hurt a masochist?
-By leaving him alone.Forever.
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