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A Rational Choice For November 2nd

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  • #41
    Originally posted by nunechka
    that is absolutely right loseyourname... government in some form or way HAS always existed...

    i think that there is a problem, nothing I've ever wanted has been taken from me either, but this has not been true for other people... and i care about the well being of others, and dont want to deny anyone the rights and the freedom they should have to make decisions in their life... so i think there are people that take advantage of the system, like tom delay "the hammer"... he has government agency serve his personal needs, when we all agreed that we would obey its laws as long as its purpose was to serve our greater needs, like rebuilding the roads, traffic laws, law enforcement, etc...

    anyway, good night everyone
    Oh hush, you never make any sense with the gibberish you call writing. At least losyername, despite his flawed position, makes a coherent case and argument.
    Achkerov kute.

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    • #42
      very mature ... but it isnt funny, and it isnt nice...

      unjust law and just law... you are confused ... you need help... you need to stop forcing your ideas on other people...

      are you are forcing us to do what you want?... thats not fair...

      can you change that avatar, that lady or man is rediculas looking... its a little scary at times too...

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      • #43
        Originally posted by nunechka
        very mature ... but it isnt funny, and it isnt nice...

        unjust law and just law... you are confused ... you need help... you need to stop forcing your ideas on other people...

        are you are forcing us to do what you want?... thats not fair...

        can you change that avatar, that lady or man is rediculas looking... its a little scary at times too...
        I understand law fine. You're the one that needs to read up on some political philosophy and economy. How am I forcing my ideas on you? It sounds like you realize the validity of my ideas and know them to be true and hate them invading your mind. It seems you are allowing them to be forced on you, for how do I force them on you? Pray tell sub genius. The beauty of this is, if you feel I am forcing you my ideas, you can walk out of it, not read and not response. We can't walk out of government because they force us to play their game even when we don't want to. I think you just made my point for me.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #44
          I think everyone should copy my avatar. That way all of these avatar problems would stop.

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          • #45
            I love your avatar Miss.debutante..its the cutesttttttt!!!!
            You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by XxgoeyxX
              I love your avatar Miss.debutante..its the cutesttttttt!!!!
              Haha, Thanks!

              If you stare at it long enough, it'll surely tell you the "rational choice for November 2nd." Or if you're writing papers and are in dire need of some bs to include, my avatar will come to the rescue.

              But really people, the rational choice for Tuesday is to pop open a few bottles and drink til we get a new president and look forward to another four years of the same bullxxxx. A few days ago I was reading this introductory note to Marcuse's One-Dimensional Man, a totally liberal book fresh out of the sixties, and this quote struck me as very profound and quite unlikely to come from the pen of a totally liberal dude. I'm trying very hard to include all relevant context. "The system's...freedoms...become subtle instruments of domination which serve to keep individuals in bondage to the system that they strengthen...For example, political freedom to vote for generally indistinguishable representatives of the same system is but a delusive ratification of a nondemocratic political system..." -Kellner

              I'm sure that whoever wants to find relevance from this quotation will find it. It's just a very radical view of our political freedoms and so I decided to use it as part of my contribution to this thread. As far as the election goes, may the man who was best able to deceive win.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by thedebutante
                I'm sure that whoever wants to find relevance from this quotation will find it. It's just a very radical view of our political freedoms and so I decided to use it as part of my contribution to this thread. As far as the election goes, may the man who was best able to deceive win.
                For some strange reason that reminds of "Survivor." Who cares if you lied, cheated and did everything inhumane possible to win. As long as you won the darn Million dollars. That only means you played the game better.


                This goes to show how sad this world has become.
                You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.

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                • #48
                  that is absolutely true anony, thats why i havent been giving your dumb little minded argument any thought... i dont except it, it is stupid, and if you have been participating in the past posts between us, you may have noticed that i have rejected it...

                  i have placed my argument next to yours and it is obvious that you have attacked mine and others agree with me, and you think we are all just "simple minded" people...

                  its not that your idea is outragous, or extreme, its that your idea just doesnt serve the common good for the common person...

                  if i thought for a second that you had a good idea, that voting does nothing, then i wouldnt vote... but i am voting and you have in NO way changed my mind... as a matter of fact i have a stronger sense to vote now then ever...

                  i found out that people who make 70k a year or more have a 95 - 99% voter turn out... why? well because they have something at stake and they know that they must protect their rights... but people making less then that have a 50% voter turn out, why? because they have less at stake, they convince themselves, hey voting has never worked and it will never work, and so they dont vote, and guess who gets what they want... people who are much better off, why because they voted...

                  you make me laugh, your remind me of hitler's story... he had a radical idea, he actually complained a lot just like you, but never did anything about it... when he told people about the problems they were all experiencing, hitler didnt know who to blame it on, so he turned to the jews... he wasnt smart at all... i dont understand why people think hitler was smart... he was a moron, he had an idea that should've been ignored... but because people were poor, they were living in horrible conditions and they needed to change things, hitler was there to feed into this anger, to put gasoline on their fire, and it didnt take much intelligence either... any group of people who are in that state will follow anything...

                  unfortunetly for you, i am not in that state, and nor are most of the people here... so thats why you dont make sense to us... we are not starving, we are not dieing, we are not loosing our jobs at that rate, and we didnt just have a 50% inflation rate...

                  your idea, althought noble and rather strange, doesnt solve anything... especially the fact that we have to choose between a douche bag and a turd sandwich... not voting does nothing...

                  as the lessons learned from south park goes: we are always going to choose between a douche bag and a turd sandwich, so get used to it... and choose who you want...

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by nunechka
                    as the lessons learned from south park goes: we are always going to choose between a douche bag and a turd sandwich, so get used to it... and choose who you want...
                    Ummm, please don't tell me that you actually think south park is advocating that as opposed to making fun of it. Looks like you kind of missed the point of the "lesson."

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by nunechka
                      that is absolutely true anony, thats why i havent been giving your dumb little minded argument any thought... i dont except it, it is stupid, and if you have been participating in the past posts between us, you may have noticed that i have rejected it...

                      i have placed my argument next to yours and it is obvious that you have attacked mine and others agree with me, and you think we are all just "simple minded" people...

                      its not that your idea is outragous, or extreme, its that your idea just doesnt serve the common good for the common person...

                      if i thought for a second that you had a good idea, that voting does nothing, then i wouldnt vote... but i am voting and you have in NO way changed my mind... as a matter of fact i have a stronger sense to vote now then ever...

                      i found out that people who make 70k a year or more have a 95 - 99% voter turn out... why? well because they have something at stake and they know that they must protect their rights... but people making less then that have a 50% voter turn out, why? because they have less at stake, they convince themselves, hey voting has never worked and it will never work, and so they dont vote, and guess who gets what they want... people who are much better off, why because they voted...

                      you make me laugh, your remind me of hitler's story... he had a radical idea, he actually complained a lot just like you, but never did anything about it... when he told people about the problems they were all experiencing, hitler didnt know who to blame it on, so he turned to the jews... he wasnt smart at all... i dont understand why people think hitler was smart... he was a moron, he had an idea that should've been ignored... but because people were poor, they were living in horrible conditions and they needed to change things, hitler was there to feed into this anger, to put gasoline on their fire, and it didnt take much intelligence either... any group of people who are in that state will follow anything...

                      unfortunetly for you, i am not in that state, and nor are most of the people here... so thats why you dont make sense to us... we are not starving, we are not dieing, we are not loosing our jobs at that rate, and we didnt just have a 50% inflation rate...

                      your idea, althought noble and rather strange, doesnt solve anything... especially the fact that we have to choose between a douche bag and a turd sandwich... not voting does nothing...

                      as the lessons learned from south park goes: we are always going to choose between a douche bag and a turd sandwich, so get used to it... and choose who you want...
                      It seems to me that trying to write long diatribes desperately justifying your case to vote against me, shows to me that I have shaken your beliefs. My point was not to convince you to my side my hopelessly dependent on voting friend. My point was to shake your beliefs and see if you could present a rational case for yours, which you didn't other than repeat the same emotional banter you repeat in every thread.

                      As far as choosing between a douche bag and a turd sandwich I will choose neither and thereby redeem myself and think for myself as opposed to being a victim of popular will like yourself. Only hopelessly dependent people believe they have no choice but to go ahead and choose the one party state.
                      Achkerov kute.

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