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  • #41
    Originally posted by loseyourname
    For that matter, if all we want is oil, why haven't we opened Alaska to drilling already?

    Well, you got that wrong, Bush opened a protected area in Alaska because it was said there was oil in the ground.... He is allready drilling and devastating the wildlife

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    • #42
      Originally posted by !EEK
      Well, you got that wrong, Bush opened a protected area in Alaska because it was said there was oil in the ground.... He is allready drilling and devastating the wildlife
      Hmm . . . I thought that was still being discussed. Odd that it would happen with so little outcry. Either way, I have no qualm with you. You're making legitimate arguments about the validity of this war. My problem is with these simpletons that are convinced Bush is the epitome of evil and stupidness and is intentionally ruining the economy of the US and disrupting world peace so that his friends can profit. Because, you know, there aren't easier ways to make money.

      Not to go off-topic, but since when does drilling devastate wildlife?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by loseyourname
        My problem is with these simpletons that are convinced Bush is the epitome of evil and stupidness and is intentionally ruining the economy of the US and disrupting world peace so that his friends can profit. Because, you know, there aren't easier ways to make money.
        He is the epitome of stupidness. On top of which, obviously I know there were more reasons for the war but I don't think he should have gone in there before the UN agreed to it and before the checking for the weapons was done. You know damn well I know enough to know that there were reasons other than $$ involved.
        The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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        • #44
          Originally posted by loseyourname
          Not to go off-topic, but since when does drilling devastate wildlife?
          Doesn't it seme logical that if someone comes into your home and starts a ruckus by drilling, they're going to disrupt your life?
          The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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          • #45
            Originally posted by ckBejug
            He is the epitome of stupidness. On top of which, obviously I know there were more reasons for the war but I don't think he should have gone in there before the UN agreed to it and before the checking for the weapons was done. You know damn well I know enough to know that there were reasons other than $$ involved.
            Have you forgotten the three warning that Saddam received asking him to open areas to inspectors that he hadn't before he was deposed? And see, if you make these arguments, I don't have a problem with that. Personally, I wouldn't have gone in because I don't agree with the idea of a pre-emptive war unless you know for certain that not going in will result in more death than going in. What I don't like are people coming in and trying to say that Bush only went in for oil, especially someone like you who I know is smarter than that. I especially don't like when you ask why we aren't in the Sudan, when the Sudan is also rich with oil.

            Doesn't it seme logical that if someone comes into your home and starts a ruckus by drilling, they're going to disrupt your life?
            Sure, but disruption is hardly devastation.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by loseyourname
              Sure, but disruption is hardly devastation.
              It doesn't matter, we don't have the right to disrupt either.
              The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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              • #47
                Originally posted by loseyourname
                You know the answer to this damn well. None of these other nations had a history of invading their neighbors and using chemical and biological weapons that could easily be sold to terrorists. Intelligence did not indicate that these nations were planning to develop a nuclear program and had tried to do so in the past. If you idiots honestly think oil is the reason, then why aren't we going to the Sudan? What about Venezuela? These nations are very rich with oil. For that matter, if all we want is oil, why haven't we opened Alaska to drilling already?

                How can you call us idiots when you are the one that believe oil wasn’t one of the reasons we invaded Iraq. Venezuela? You’re joking right… would the house and senate agree to send troops to Venezuela just to get oil? Now, it was way easier to blame Iraq for supporting terror and weapons of mass destruction than Venezuela buddy! Now indeed, there were other reasons behind this as well, but oil was most certainly one of ‘em. Second big mistake Bush made was to get into war without really planning it out first, and he’s now stuck there and more and more soldiers are getting killed for absolutely no reason whatsoever. According to him, we should have left Iraq long time ago but we haven’t.

                By the way in the war between Iraq and Iran, America was SUPPORTING sadaam by sending Iraq weapons and etc. So it was OK "then" to bomb Iran but not "now"? So you really believe that Bush didn't want to see Iraq invade it's neighbors and cares about Iraqi people? OKAY

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                • #48
                  Should we stop building houses and driving cars and using electricity? Should we disassemble all cities and let nature take back over? All of these activities and entities are equally or more disruptive, even devastating.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by loseyourname
                    Should we stop building houses and driving cars and using electricity? Should we disassemble all cities and let nature take back over? All of these activities and entities are equally or more disruptive, even devastating.
                    That, of course, is exactly why we have specifically protected and regulated areas we are not allowed to touch, such as those in Alaska that Bush has gone into already, apparently.
                    The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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                    • #50
                      Well, as one of the people to whom all these people are apologizing....it did make me feel a little better. Thank you.

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