The Real Face of War

[!EEK]

I don't find the other videos online but here's the link

http://videojts.france2.fr/

* You need to click first on "Journal de 20h" then when the window pops out, click on 16/11/2004 in "edition du JT".... you'll have the video and it's the second headline (after Ivory coast's embargo..) and the info/video is at the 8th minute

[Anonymouse]

Isn't Belgium and France full of Black people and Muslims?

[ckBejug]

Those images are interesting but nothing compared to the things we are shown on European news......

Anyone saw the latest footage where an american kills an unarmed, nearly naked iraqian wanting to surrender?

The marines are going insane, like they used to in Vietnam..they see danger everywhere, even where it's clearly safe

Yes I read about the imbedded American reporter who videotaped a US Marine shooting an Iraqi who was unarmed, wounded, and to top it off he was in a mosque. More fuel to the fire that still burns in Iraqi's who hate Americans so.

U.S. Marine Videotaped Shooting Dead Unarmed Iraqi
This news from Iraq: an NBC cameraman has caught on tape video of a US Marine shooting dead an unarmed and wounded Iraqi prisoner in a mosque in Fallujah. The NBC correspondent Kevin Sites said the Iraqi man who was killed was one of five Iraqis who had been injured after the US raided a Fallujah mosque. Another 10 Iraqis had already been killed in the raid. The Marine is heard on tape claiming the Iraqi was faking his death. A marine can be heard saying on the pool footage provided to Reuters, "He's [expletive] faking he's dead. He faking he's [expletive] dead." The marine then raises his rifle and fires into the man's head. The Marine involved in the shooting has been removed from the field and was being questioned by the US military. The NBC correspondent on the scene said the shot prisoner "did not appear to be armed or threatening in any way". The shooting came on the same day that another US soldier was charged with murder for the killing of an Iraqi detainee in Baghdad.

[!EEK]

Isn't Belgium and France full of Black people and Muslims?

It depends where... I never lived in France but every media I watch is French...

Yes, the most immigrants are people from Arab country (mostly moroco or algeria and a rather large community of Turks) and African ones...

It's pretty much the same in Belgium altough blacks in Belgium aren't causing much trouble.

And yet it depends where you go. You see those minorities aften concentrated in one zone where they are a majority.(Borgerhout)

By the way we have a Belgian joke about it:

Whats the second most spoken language of Borgerhout?

-Dutch

Anyway, it's not as bad as it sounds...you just have to avoid those "zones" but it's okay coz they tend to be on the outskirts of the city.

[gevo]

Obviously one is the same as a thousand. But I was only making the argument because of those like you who have a tendency to sometimes justify this as overthrowing Saddam because he was a tyrant and freeing the people.

I was merely showing the alternative, not justifying, and im tired of stating you cant justify war..

..Saddam ..was a tyrant and ....

yet i can not see how you can deny this fact.. this is certainly true and even France agreed with this.
What is your point? You are making an arguement that i am justfying war, when i repeatedly stated that my belief is that war can not be justified.

[Anonymouse]

I was merely showing the alternative, not justifying, and im tired of stating you cant justify war..yet i can not see how you can deny this fact.. this is certainly true and even France agreed with this.

No one denied this.

What is your point? You are making an arguement that i am justfying war, when i repeatedly stated that my belief is that war can not be justified.

Precisely. Saddam is simply a mirror image of what Americas 'values' are.

[Thai-Samurai]

Today in USA Today, the newspaper, theirs a picture of a bunch of Iraqi kids holding Toy AK47s. The caption says, "New Freedoms: Iraq boys hold new toy guns as they are driven around a park in Baghdad today. Toy guns were banned under Saddam Hussein."
That's pretty Ironic, imagine a little kid going, "Hey I'm gonna use my toy gun to pretend to shoot Americans too." And then the Marines of course think it's more crazy Arab strategy, and blow the kid up.

[Thai-Samurai]

lol French is so annoying.

[Sip]

Anyone saw the latest footage where an american kills an unarmed, nearly naked iraqian wanting to surrender?

They did the right thing. Iraqi's have played a lot of tricks with walking up with a white flag and then opening fire, or booby trapping bodies or people trying to surrender. Hey, it's not a coctail party ... it's a war and people will get killed.

I wonder where the pictures of the people that were gassed throughout the decades by sadam are ... people are so quick to blame the big bad US for finally taking action about this flacked up loonatic but where were these people when Sadam was killing the Kurds like Turks butchering Armenians and burning down entire villages with Mustard gas?

[Anonymouse]

They did the right thing. Iraqi's have played a lot of tricks with walking up with a white flag and then opening fire, or booby trapping bodies or people trying to surrender. Hey, it's not a coctail party ... it's a war and people will get killed.

I wonder where the pictures of the people that were gassed throughout the decades by sadam are ... people are so quick to blame the big bad US for finally taking action about this flacked up loonatic but where were these people when Sadam was killing the Kurds like Turks butchering Armenians and burning down entire villages with Mustard gas?

Oh how noble of you to support the ousting of Saddams unethical behavior with more unethical behavior. That will surely do the trick. After all, it was the same Saddam that America put in power. He wasn't so 'evil' then, was he? It's just like when America was Allied with the big bad Red Menace during World War II, and that's when Stalin was 'Uncle Joe'.