Terri Schiavo (the brain dead woman)

[ArmoBarbi]

How convenient that right during Monday, the one year marking point when America launched it's attack on Iraq, the government had to be taking care of important isses such as badgering baseball players for using steroids or whether Terri Schiavo's bong needs to be removed.

While protests and vigil's were held across the nation and the world, Congress was busy with these important things.

Some talking points

Point 1 The government has absolutely no business getting involved in this case as it is a private affair. It is the business of her husband, not the government. End of debate.

Point 2 The government does not care about the life of Terri Schiavo or the life of anyone else for that matter. This is simply a political ploy of the lowest kind.

Some of us have already touched on this. There is no question that this is absurd and is only a distraction (refer to prior posts), but some people wish to discuss it, and that is the only way to keep this thread going - not saying "end of debate".

Cat, it's not that we don't see anything wrong, but it is only one case and really is trivial.

Here is a question: If you were in this woman's position, would you want your situation to be told to the country and taken this far in terms of argument? Or would you rather this be a private affair and decided among your family members?

I would choose the latter.

[rabinovich]

I don't know, maybe I got feelings and I see what's happening, and I don't think it's fair??


And what exactly is it that you want me to do about the people dying around the globe? This is the topic of this thread, we're discussing it. Don't play smart with me....

The reason you are discussing her and not millions of other more important issues is that she is fed to you by your media. I open the CNN website and see this woman in the front page in at least THREE sections - US, Politics, Law. My point is - your thoughts and feelings don't come from inside, they are controlled by people who really don't care for that woman or for you. If they wanted you to feel otherwise - you would feel otherwise.

[ArmoBarbi]

The reason you are discussing her and not millions of other more important issues is that she is fed to you by your media. I open the CNN website and see this woman in the front page in at least THREE sections - US, Politics, Law. My point is - your thoughts and feelings don't come from inside, they are controlled by people who really don't care for that woman or for you. If they wanted you to feel otherwise - you would feel otherwise.

Beautiful isnt it? Makes me feel just like back home

[rabinovich]

And what exactly is it that you want me to do about the people dying around the globe? This is the topic of this thread, we're discussing it. Don't play smart with me....

OK, answering to your question: I want you to spend your precious time discussing more important topics, if you really think your discussion has a point and actually does something good, however insignificant that good may be.

Not that I'm telling you to do that, I'm just pointing out that those "feelings" that you claim you have could have been concentrated on less absurd issues than whether or not a mentally dead woman who you never knew should be artificially kept alive or not.

And don't get personal here . I didn't address you individually, just everyone who pays so much attention to this topic.

[rabinovich]

Beautiful isnt it? Makes me feel just like back home

Yeah it seems every strong country needs to control the brains of its citizens. I guess one good lesson people learn living in countries like Armenia is to be skeptical of all the sh*t coming from "above"...

That's offtopic now. Why don't we let people get back to discussing their dead woman...

[nunechka]

#1 the news makes people think about things that are not relavent to our daily lives so as to distract us (which we know that the news is controlled by the current power)

#2 the governemnt shouldnt be in anyone's bed, life, penis, vagina, etc...

#3 she couldnt have left a will in such cases if she was a real religious person because one is not allowed to commit suicide...

and of course #4 i think people shouldnt think its immoral to pull the tube on people who we know are not goign to survive, i think its MUCH MUCH MORE immoral to let children die of starvation on any continent...

[CatWoman]

The reason you are discussing her and not millions of other more important issues is that she is fed to you by your media. I open the CNN website and see this woman in the front page in at least THREE sections - US, Politics, Law. My point is - your thoughts and feelings don't come from inside, they are controlled by people who really don't care for that woman or for you. If they wanted you to feel otherwise - you would feel otherwise.

Ummm no honey, the reason I'm discussing her and not the millions dying around the globe is because she is the TOPIC OF THIS THREAD! I am interested in this case, plain and simple and I don't need anyones' permission to discuss a case and state my opinion. This can be all over the net and someone who isn't interested won't even bother to look or get deep into it, just like almost anyone in this thread trying to sound open minded and saying they should just kill her without really knowing the details.

Cat, it's not that we don't see anything wrong, but it is only one case and really is trivial.

Here is a question: If you were in this woman's position, would you want your situation to be told to the country and taken this far in terms of argument? Or would you rather this be a private affair and decided among your family members?

I would choose the latter.

I don't care if it is trivial or not, it interests me.

To answer you question, It depends on what really happened to her. If she had a shot at getting better through therapy, which doctors said she did and received money for it but her husband refused to send her to rahab and spent all her rehab money, and now that the money is gone is asking them to kill me, YES I WOULD WANT THE ENTIRE WORLD TO KNOW ABOUT IT! She was never given a chance.

[rabinovich]

Ummm no honey, the reason I'm discussing her and not the millions dying around the globe is because she is the TOPIC OF THIS THREAD! I am interested in this case, plain and simple and I don't need anyones' permission to discuss a case and state my opinion. This can be all over the net and someone who isn't interested won't even bother to look or get deep into it, just like almost anyone in this thread trying to sound open minded and saying they should just kill her without really knowing the details.

Look sweetheart, the reason this thread appeared in the first place is because, as everyone already said, media is controlling your minds and "feelings". Yes, I find myself open-minded, not just "sound open-minded", for one thing because I analyse more what I hear. Neither I see why would you say it in an offensive tone, I think open-mindedness is a very positive thing.

You want me to predict something? In near future they will start seriously talking about "apes and higher mammals having personalities", and consider killing them equivalent to murder. So instead of talking of Iraqi children having personalities, you would open new threads and start spreading your newly discovered "feelings" about newly discovered "personalities"...

As I think of it, it would even be less absurd than this thread

[rabinovich]

I am interested in this case, plain and simple and I don't need anyones' permission to discuss a case and state my opinion.

I don't need anyones permission to state my comments on your opinion on a public discussion board.

Once again, I find your opinion dictated from above. As a proof that I am right, just wait and see how many more ridiculous topics will appear on the news soon, and how many more ridiculous things you will start caring about...

[CatWoman]

Look sweetheart, the reason this thread appeared in the first place is because, as everyone already said, media is controlling your minds and "feelings". Yes, I find myself open-minded, not just "sound open-minded", for one thing because I analyse more what I hear. Neither I see why would you say it in an offensive tone, I think open-mindedness is a very positive thing.

You want me to predict something? In near future they will start seriously talking about "apes and higher mammals having personalities", and consider killing them equivalent to murder. So instead of talking of Iraqi children having personalities, you would open new threads and start spreading your newly discovered "feelings" about newly discovered "personalities"...

As I think of it, it would even be less absurd than this thread

Yes, being open minded is great, I consider myself one, but when it comes to such situations I think it's better to know a bit more about the case before giving opinions that make us "sound" open-minded, when in reality we're clueless about what we just said and why we said it and what is the controversy over...

Also people showing interest in Terri's case doesn't mean they're clueless about the situation in Iraq or around the world...

Well apes DO HAVE personalities you know!! So does my dog...