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[Anonymouse]

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First of all, let me remind you that my comment - post #61 - applied to this thread where you simply came to - and I repeat - bark. You had nothing better to do?

As for the post 160 in the other thread, I was simply asking you for an elucidation, an explanation. Your bully and insecure self got infuriated and your reply was a bit aggressive. I will push you if you push me. I pushed you back and will in the future if you repeat the same. Let it be clear.

Please have the honesty to see facts as they are. You think that you can state what pleases you and nobody should question you? What are you: veri ardi tsoren?

Instead of letting your insecurities and paranoia dictate your reply, you could have simply provide an explanation. I think that all this blah, blah, blah indicates that you probably had no plausible or reasonable explanation. All you achieved is to ridicule yourself by posting, one after the other, poorly constructed reasoning.

On the bright side, it's very likely that, in the future, you will reason a bit longer before opening your big mouth. Of course, I expect that you may deny the fact that it may have an impact on you.

Here, however, Zarathustra interrupted the foaming fool and put his hand over the fool's mouth. "Stop at last!" cried Zarathustra; "your speech and your manner have long nauseated me...

They call you my ape, you foaming fool; but I call you my grunting swine: with your grunting you spoil for me my praise of folly. What was it that first made you grunt? That nobody flattered you sufficiently; you sat down to this filth so as to have reason to grunt much - to have reason for much revenge. For all your foaming is revenge, you vain fool; I guessed it well."

---Taken from Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche.

[Siamanto]

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Why you quoted me and called me anonymouse, I wont ask. Moving on…

That was simply an operational error.

All I’m saying is that you started the “barking” first like a little b!tch . you pushed first with the rock comment (mine was not meant for you, nor was it meant to insult ace and he did not take offense), please let’s not forget that. Even after I ignored you, you constantly complained about me in your responses to mouse. My following comment was merely to push you back into place that’s all.

I've already answered to the above. Your statement concerned Armenians and therefore concerned me. That is the most ridiculous argument; you replied to ace's statement yet it was not addressed to you. Let's be more mature.
Anonymouse, after a week or so, brought it back; there was a mention of you and I replied to it and obviously it was more or less about you. That is logical. You're trying to confuse and blur the issue.

In any case, the bottom line is:
When a bully like you or Anonymouse pushes me or anybody that matters to me - or bashes anything that matters to me; then I will push you back. That is the bottom line.

I don't have much respect for bullies but I can let you be. I do my best to avoid you; but when we interact, you should control your bully self.

the only illogical/unreasonable (and insecure!) one here is you and everyone can see that (insulting my logic wont do you any good, esp because I can kick your ass on any logical reasoning challenge/test or whatever you wanna call it)

Apparently it did.
I challenge you exactly how and where you bully others. Anonymouse and you believe having an impeccable logic and reasoning - of course, besides being "cool" - and that's where I challenge you. As a matter of fact, your performance was mediocre.
In this post, I already see a certain change in your attitude and I appreciate it. You often behave as if you can push others as you please; pushing you around was maybe useful.

as to post #61, when I read it, it totally described you, so I commented

You and Anonymouse came to this thread and all you did is attack me and bark and you think that it describes me??? Of course!

and yes, I don’t have anything better to do when I come onto the forum during my winter break, just as you don’t have anything better to do when you sign onto it (if you do, then maybe you need to take a few econ classes, that's all)

Are you telling me that you come here to attack and bully others? That's more or less what bored teenagers do in the suburbs: bully others, vandalize properties etc.
There are many other ways of being part of a community.

While I have bullied on this forum, esp a while ago when there were more entertaining people than you around and it was all in good fun, I don’t remember ever attacking you, nor was it ever my intention since I don’t know you, I have no interest in the things you post, and I had no problems with you before you started attacking me. So if I have in any way insulted you in the past, please show me the post that hurt you. If you want to address this problem, then the logical way to do it is to go to the initial post that offended you (and we both know it wasn’t in the Armenian girls/purity thread). You can send it to me without further messing up other people’s threads if you wish…

You can always try to justify your behavior by blaming others, circumstances or changes, but that is simply running away from reality.
I reply to it in public, because this is a public forum. If you allow yourself to push others in public, then you should expect to be pushed back in public. Assume yourself. I have no particular reason to tolerate excessive behavior from your part, because you don't exist in my life and you mean nothing in particular to me.
As I have told you - and Anonymouse - on many occasions; those events you have in mind seem to mean more to you than to me. I don't appreciate you because I perceive you as a bully, whether you push me or not. We are different people, with different ideals and values.

[thedebutante]

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ahh he's trying to play robin hood. hahaha

well let me tell you, usually in a "bullying situation," it is the person that is being bullied around who's affected more 'cause the bully doesnt give a xxxx. but because you have no evidence to prove that your attitude toward me is a result of me bullying you around (i'm talking about when this started a while ago when you attacked me the first time), then while before i had a drop of respect for you because i thought you were defending yourself in what you thought was an unfair situation, now i have none. so you can just go bask in your sad, pathetic life and when our paths cross again on this forum, which they wont until you address me again, nothing will be held back. just so you know, no one on this forum needs you to stand up for them, so even here you have created for yourself a false sense of being needed. in a way, that's beyond pathetic. gosh, and it's so hard to differentiate your posts, since they all say the same thing, use the same old words, and are all so defensive.

and i agree with you, i can push anyone i want as i please. i can make anyone believe anything i want them to believe. my only disagreement with you on that point is that i dont believe i've done that on this forum. not lately anyway.

[Siamanto]

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ahh he's trying to play robin hood. hahaha

well let me tell you, usually in a "bullying situation," it is the person that is being bullied around who's affected more 'cause the bully doesnt give a xxxx. but because you have no evidence to prove that your attitude toward me is a result of me bullying you around (i'm talking about when this started a while ago when you attacked me the first time), then while before i had a drop of respect for you because i thought you were defending yourself in what you thought was an unfair situation, now i have none. so you can just go bask in your sad, pathetic life and when our paths cross again on this forum, which they wont until you address me again, nothing will be held back. just so you know, no one on this forum needs you to stand up for them, so even here you have created for yourself a false sense of need. in a way, that's beyond pathetic. gosh, and it's so hard to differentiate your posts, since they all say the same thing, use the same old words, and are all so defensive.

and i agree with you, i can push anyone i want as i please. i can make anyone believe anything i want them to believe. my only disagreement with you on that point is that i dont believe i've done that on this forum. not lately anyway.

You can understand a "bullying situation" the way it pleases you. Also, you may or may not have a "drop of respect" for me; I just don't care and it means nothing to me. You, your existence and feelings are of no relevance to me.
You can continue to be a bully or a punk, that is your choice; but just keep in mind the following:
When a bully like you or Anonymouse pushes me or anybody that matters to me - or bashes anything that matters to me; then I will push you back. That is the bottom line.

As simple as that.

[thedebutante]

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ya, that may be the bottom line for you, but it also means that my comments do matter to you.

and you keep in mind that if you dont wanna be pushed, dont push first. without your comment, none of this would have started (neither this time, nor last time) because neither you nor your forum personality matter

[Anonymouse]

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You can understand a "bullying situation" the way it pleases you. Also, you may or may not have a "drop of respect" for me; I just don't care and it means nothing to me. You, your existence and feelings are of no relevance to me.
You can continue to be a bully or a punk, that is your choice; but just keep in mind the following:
When a bully like you or Anonymouse pushes me or anybody that matters to me - or bashes anything that matters to me; then I will push you back. That is the bottom line.

As simple as that.

"Waaaaaaaah, mommy they hurt me".

Oh pity the poor French fry. He is being "bullied". This is yet more testament to the fact that this poor soul with a frail shell of reality that is based on his feelings of importance in the world, is being discomforted and made to feel insignificant on an internet! Of all places in real life, when divorces, deceivers and defilers of the human soul in the real world actually "bully", this poor chap here feels threatened and intimidated by people on an internet, on an indirect form of communication in an illusory place called cyberspace. As such, it is only a glimpse of how warped this individual's sense of self is, and how hopelessly dependent his sense of ego and self-confidence is tied to this abysmal world of the web.

You're so easily perturbed about damage to your sensitive self, that a slight jab on an internet is enough to get you gibbering endlessly and nearly dancing the fandango. The only sad part is, all you have been able to muster is at best juvenile posturing, and an attempt to redeem your frail self back into some composure, by constantly repeating your proverbial line, 'if you push me I push back'. It's just an internet. I saw when you first attacked thedebutante. You started that, not her. While I admit to starting almost all of my "bullying" (oh those pooor victims), you do not even have the mental stability to admit that you are what you condemn.

Are you telling me that you come here to attack and bully others? That's more or less what bored teenagers do in the suburbs: bully others, vandalize properties etc. There are many other ways of being part of a community.

Now, now Siamanto. We know you are trying to "come back" with an "insult", but this is trying too hard. There is a difference, one would imagine (at least one that is somewhat mentally stable) between teenagers engaging in vandalizing property, and when someone comes to post on an internet forum! See, that right there is the problem, you have lost all distinction between reality and cyber reality, between the world that is, and the world that is the internet. You are soo far and deep into yourself, your head is so far and deep into your own anus, you are soo far and deep obsessed and absorbed with your elitist, yet tender and sensitive sense of self, that you forget, many people post for different reasons.

It's a public forum. Who said this was your idea of a community, or what a community should be? If you want a serious, regimented forum, go to another forum. There are many other forums that cater to self-absorbed half-wits like you. Get over yourself. Some people come here to joke around, and if their posts which are jokes (which by the way is what thedebutante all posts), and you confuse that as "bullying", then whose fault is that? You really have some serious mental cavities. Even though you're here by choice, and I was telling this to thedebutante, there's some kind of childlike innocence about you that I'd feel guilty about poking a new hole into.

[Siamanto]

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ya, that may be the bottom line for you, but it also means that my comments do matter to you.

When I read a post, I focus on the text of a post i.e.
1- The different readings that can be made
2- Its potential impact on a reader
The person of the poster is secondary to me, unless it's a private conversation or an exchange of personal nature, like the one we're having now. In other words, it depends on the "Language Game" - as defined by Wittgenstein.
As a matter of fact, even when I'm playing on a Web forum, I usually focus more on the text than the person.
I'm not here to chat and I don't view of a Web forum as a chatroom.

Of course, "your" comments - i.e. comments posted by you, a nuance - matter to me; as much as the comments of a 12 year old, 16 year old or 70 year old person and regardless of the age or...

and you keep in mind that if you dont wanna be pushed, dont push first. without your comment, none of this would have started (neither this time, nor last time) because neither you nor your forum personality matter

First of all, and for the record, it's not only about pushing me; it's about pushing anybody or anything that is of relevance to me. In fact, gossip about me matters less to me than gossip about - or bashing - people or matters that are of relevance to me.

Second of all, as I've already told you, you should not have let your insecurities and paranoia dictate or influence your reading of the text of my post. I asked you for an explanation, an elucidation and it was legitimate and/or fair enough. All you had to do is share with us the "facts" - that apparently do not exist. Read my post with less emotion and you may make a different reading.
You got infuriated because I have challenged you to provide us with convincing and reasonable explanations.


P.S. Maybe I should not say this to you, but I think that you should seriously consider "wiping up his chin" and do something about his rage; he really falls apart under pressure and drools a bit too excessively. He reminds me of a kid in his preferred superman costume, all hysterical because challenged. Nietzsche would have decried the imposture of the Overman by a gregarious slave.
Also, you can encourage him to think about and control the manifestations of his psychosis, be it schizophrenia, paranoia or megalomania. He seriously needs help.

[Anonymouse]

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First of all, and for the record, it's not only about pushing me; it's about pushing anybody or anything that is of relevance to me. In fact, gossip about me matters less to me than gossip about - or bashing - people or matters that are of relevance to me.

Just what in the world could you be referring to here old man? That we mentioned your PM sessions with LadySilver? So that's who matters to you? (Whatya know, she's viewing this thread) You got defensive for no reason old man. You just have a hard on for seriousness, and can't let go of your rocking chair, or stand someone throwing a lighthearted joke. Nothing is serious, except you, the sycophant. There is no "gossip" involved when we openly mention this, in an open forum where you could see. This isn't even a real place, for us to "gossip" behind your back, nor do we care that much about your putrid existence. And it's pretty pathetic trying to display your vast knowledge of post-modernism and Wittgenstein in justifying yourself during flame wars. We already get it, you're an intellectual, you read the paper, you cross your legs, but you're missing a smokers pipe.

P.S. Maybe I should not say this to you, but I think that you should seriously consider "wiping up his chin" and do something about his rage; he really falls apart under pressure and drools a bit too excessively. He reminds me of a kid in his preferred superman costume, all hysterical because challenged. Nietzsche would have decried the imposture of the Overman by a gregarious slave.
Also, you can encourage him to think about and control the manifestations of his psychosis, be it schizophrenia, paranoia or megalomania. He seriously needs help.

So now you have "challenged" me? This is a more serious condition you suffer from than I thought. So that's what this is about? This is what perturbs and bugs you? All this is about you challenging me? Is that how you see me? As someone who wields power and needs to be challenged? What else could the reason be? So this is where your childish posturing ends up, in your ability to somehow project your masculine self all over the interweb, and feel threatened by online ladies who dare make you feel your shortcomings in the masculinity department. And so to compensate for it, you have to spread your proverbial 'manliness' and 'push back', to show that you do have what it takes to be a man. All this, online.

Here we have a worthy contender capable of spinning yards of words to form a colloquial nightmare of nothing. You try so hard to make a decent blow, but end up coming off as nothing more than one of those effeminate men that cross their legs when they sit down, unable to gather ammo from the empty, cavernous interior around your head, that it makes me want to have tears of pity for you. I'm just not sure if I can handle the tiny spasms of regret I may experience at making you feel any more inconsequential about yourself.

[thedebutante]

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When I read a post, I focus on the text of a post i.e.
1- The different readings that can be made
2- Its potential impact on a reader
The person of the poster is secondary to me, unless it's a private conversation or an exchange of personal nature, like the one we're having now. In other words, it depends on the "Language Game" - as defined by Wittgenstein.
As a matter of fact, even when I'm playing on a Web forum, I usually focus more on the text than the person.
I'm not here to chat and I don't view of a Web forum as a chatroom.

Of course, "your" comments - i.e. comments posted by you, a nuance - matter to me; as much as the comments of a 12 year old, 16 year old or 70 year old person and regardless of the age or...







First of all, and for the record, it's not only about pushing me; it's about pushing anybody or anything that is of relevance to me. In fact, gossip about me matters less to me than gossip about - or bashing - people or matters that are of relevance to me.

Second of all, as I've already told you, you should not have let your insecurities and paranoia dictate or influence your reading of the text of my post. I asked you for an explanation, an elucidation and it was legitimate and/or fair enough. All you had to do is share with us the "facts" - that apparently do not exist. Read my post with less emotion and you may make a different reading.
You got infuriated because I have challenged you to provide us with convincing and reasonable explanations.


P.S. Maybe I should not say this to you, but I think that you should seriously consider "wiping up his chin" and do something about his rage; he really falls apart under pressure and drools a bit too excessively. He reminds me of a kid in his preferred superman costume, all hysterical because challenged. Nietzsche would have decried the imposture of the Overman by a gregarious slave.
Also, you can encourage him to think about and control the manifestations of his psychosis, be it schizophrenia, paranoia or megalomania. He seriously needs help.

k, i'm tired of responding to the same post (since all your posts sound the same), so i will no longer dignify any of this with responses. if you feel that i'm pushing you, then get off my "female male" nuts and stay out of my way. if you want to address me and make your presence felt, then dont whine about what happens. if your hostility goes back to the whole pm thing and you are just trying to bring that up at every chance, do it privately (and make sure you go back to those old posts and notice that before that pm "gossip," as you like to call it, you started everything since i didnt even know you posted on this forum before you posted xxxx about me, once again, you barked first).

as far as mouse is concerned, you are not even a mere shadow next to him so dont even bother

[Siamanto]

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k, i'm tired of responding to the same post (since all your posts sound the same), so i will no longer dignify any of this with responses. if you feel that i'm pushing you, then get off my "female male" nuts and stay out of my way. if you want to address me and make your presence felt, then dont whine about what happens. if your hostility goes back to the whole pm thing and you are just trying to bring that up at every chance, do it privately (and make sure you go back to those old posts and notice that before that pm "gossip," as you like to call it, you started everything since i didnt even know you posted on this forum before you posted xxxx about me, once again, you barked first).

as far as mouse is concerned, you are not even a mere shadow next to him so dont even bother

We understand a text based on our knowledge, intellectual capabilities, discerning abilities and analytical skills. If you see the same post, then your capabilities and abilities should be the most underdeveloped and rough. Not too surprised.

As for avoiding the female man that you are, if you had even the basic reading skill, you would have noticed that I've already told you:
"I don't have much respect for bullies but I can let you be. I do my best to avoid you; but when we interact, you should control your bully self."
Furthermore, why would I not avoid the sight of something that I consider as unattractive and filth?

However, if you chose to continue to act like a bully and a punk with some people and regarding some subjects, then I will reply with the same. So don't whine like the brat that you are. I don't have any reason to tolerate your excesses because you mean nothing to me. "If you don't like the effects, don't produce the cause." (Funkadelic)
If you - and your bulldog - make some people's life harder or cause inconvenience, then I will make yours harder. If you - and your bulldog - bash when it matters to me, then I will expose your stupidities and shortcomings. Let it be clear, Mrs. Brat.

Yes, instead of replying, maybe you should wipe your bulldog's chin and seek professional help for his psychosis.
Also, on his birthday, please buy him a new superman costume; this one looks too old. I'm sure that he'll be thrilled with his gift.