"Different" By One-Way

[Inthemood]

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.....Oh, there goes Rabbit, he choked
He's so mad, but he won't give up that

Interesting concept. You know, you're on to shomthin shomthin. I can i d e n t i f y wit dat. I am sorry but I just don't get rap. They need to decide if they want to be poets or singers, because rhyming lame poetry to pounding beats is just not working.

[One-Way]

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^ So what exactly is the problem?

You don't like rap because "we" can't decide if we want to be poets/singers?

I'll speak for myself when I say my music is different. I'm a rapper. A poet writes poetry. A singer sings on songs. What do I do? I write poetry. I make songs in which I sing and rap. It's not "lame poetry" to "pounding beats". So, sorry.

[Inthemood]

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I didn't mean to insult you. It was just my opinion. Rap doesn't move me, it's numbing and pounding. I just think that rap is basically reciting your poetry to music/beats. Poetry is meant to be absorbed on its own, not to be distracted by deafening electronically modified tunes. Just as music is supposed to be appreciated for its instrumental composition accompanied by a matching and melodic voice. One has to absorb one or the other, combining the two diminishes the effect of either one, and ends up as just an average production.

[Tamzara]

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One-Way:

Though I’m not a fan of Hip/Hop, I think (from reading your essay) that you have passion and that’s all that matters. Keep doing what you are doing.

And why did you want to rap like Eminem? I can honestly say it’s great that you failed cause now you can find your own style rather then trying to be like someone else. Seems like everyone is doing that these days.

[One-Way]

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That's your opinion, gotta respect it, but in a way it doesn't make sense to me.

If you claim poetry doesn't go well with beats, what do you say about singers, in general? Pop singers, R&B singers.. Basically, a lot of forms of music are poets reciting lyrics. Does that mean you hate music in general or are you critisizing rap, just to critisize rap?

By the way, not all our songs are poetry being recited. Some are, but not all. Most of our songs are just songs. You know?

[One-Way]

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One-Way:

Though I’m not a fan of Hip/Hop, I think (from reading your essay) that you have passion and that’s all that matters. Keep doing what you are doing.

And why did you want to rap like Eminem? I can honestly say it’s great that you failed cause now you can find your own style rather then trying to be like someone else. Seems like everyone is doing that these days.

The above post was for "Inthemood".

But, thanks.

Also, I used to rap like Eminem because I was just starting, I didn't know any better. I idolized him, wanted to be like him. But yeah, it's good I failed, and I think everybody starts off imitating somebody. You just need to find your own voice, that's why it's taking me so long to finish my CD. Just finding my own voice, doing it 100% me. My style.

[Inthemood]

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In no way would I want to criticize rap for the sake of criticizing. Singers (pop, blues, rock, r&b; and by all means I hardly mean all, because we know there are some that are just commercial poop) should actually demonstrate their vocal abilities, a rapper doesn't even has to have a good voice. The main requirement for a rapper is to be able to recite poetry (or what they consider poetry) fast, and preferably rhyme, the music that goes along with that is usually detached, it's not complimented, it acts as a background. For some rap "songs" music is just a vehicle that's highly engineered to decorate their empty lyrics.

Take away the beats and you have horrible lyrics that no one would care to listen to, create some synthesized sound that goes with it and everyone is bopping their heads, calling it "some good sheeit." So you see separately they are artificial and empty, together they are appeasing to the masses, who pay attention to neither, just an overall effect. I just don't like it. What can I say, I am a very pretentious listener. If the poetry is solid, it should have an impact on its own, for it its deep and moving content. Sort of like great piece of art, if it's great who cares about the frame?

[Tamzara]

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Take away the beats and you have horrible lyrics that no one would care to listen to, create some synthesized sound that goes with it and everyone is bopping their heads, calling it "some good sheeit."

I agree. There are many Hip/Hop artists who have beautiful lyrics but the stuff thats on rabio. The words they use. Its almost always about another women going down on them, having sex, taking them to the candy shop and shaking their laffy taffy. Very moving indeed.

One-Way, whats is your music about mostly? Is it about your life, your family or life in general that other people can relate too?

[ace]

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Take away the beats and you have horrible lyrics that no one would care to listen to, create some synthesized sound that goes with it and everyone is bopping their heads, calling it "some good sheeit." So you see separately they are artificial and empty, together they are appeasing to the masses, who pay attention to neither, just an overall effect. I just don't like it. What can I say, I am a very pretentious listener. If the poetry is solid, it should have an impact on its own, for it its deep and moving content. Sort of like great piece of art, if it's great who cares about the frame?

1. Stop generalizing the entire genre based off of commercial songs.
2. That can be said about alot of other forms of music, especially todays pop.
3. The Hip Hop underground in all honesty (I listen to all music) is the most diverse and creative form of music just because its so versatile.

Commercial hip hop is also mostly dance songs - its not suppose to make you think, its suppose to make you dance...clubs without hip hop would seriously be weak.

Listen to Louis Logic - The Ugly Truth if you want to listen to a hip hop song where the lyrics/concept and poetry really shine above everything else.

And listen to Fort Minor if you want to hear a rapper that produced his own album from scratch.

[Inthemood]

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1. Stop generalizing the entire genre based off of commercial songs.
2. That can be said about alot of other forms of music, especially todays pop.
3. The Hip Hop underground in all honesty (I listen to all music) is the most diverse and creative form of music just because its so versatile.

Commercial hip hop is also mostly dance songs - its not suppose to make you think, its suppose to make you dance...clubs without hip hop would seriously be weak.

Listen to Louis Logic - The Ugly Truth if you want to listen to a hip hop song where the lyrics/concept and poetry really shine above everything else.

And listen to Fort Minor if you want to hear a rapper that produced his own album from scratch.

For the most part I was focusing on commercial fluff, but I did emphasize the point that the two must be separate in order to really be appreciated for the art itself. I am not much into hip hop in clubs, I guess I just can't numb myself, because when I start moving to the music I can't help but catch some brilliant phrases and words, those exact ones that Tamzara mentioned. Forgive me but I just can vibe to that junk, it kills the mood. Perhaps this may sound boring but I would prefer organized dancing (swing, tango, salsa, etc.) where the focus is on "feel good music" rather than "bumpin and grinding" to "pimping music." And I can't say that I am deprived.

"It's not supposed to make you think..just dance," look around when that happens, everyone is grinding or bopping to "hoes, hatin, shootin, biatches..blah blah.." drunk and identical...notice the similarity between them and the herd? I do, they might as well just hum "bleeee" and gallop around. Not for me. I know, I sound like an old poop, the antidote to that (not to notice) is for you to get drunk like everyone else, frankly I am I not interested.

Maybe Hip Hop was, but no longer is... And if you can remember KRS? Good, inspirational lyrics, after a while everyone got bored. See what I mean? It doesn't work, unless both are mediocre.

Now....Louis Logic - The Ugly Truth:

Yo yo, I hate those filthy xxxxin' monkeys
And the features that they share with simians
Disgusting junkies, welfare recipients
They livin' off of someone's money who pays tax and has a life
While these black xxxxxes stomachs stay fat with parasites
And they have to have a pipe to relax on average nights
So their bastard bratty tykes all act like savage types
It's the legacy of black and Spanish guys
Beg when ?tea and genoas? complacency of dads who have no wives
Police should beat their xxxxin' skulls in with magnum lights
Illegitimate illiterate black should have no rights
Cuz they go from having lives to having life
And I pay to feed their appetites and give them TV's with satellite
Those thevin', stealing dirty xxxxin' heathens dealing dope need to steal a boat
And sail their monkey asses back to Africa
And seal the coast with giant gates made of steel and bolts
So we can try and save the decent white god-fearing folk

[Chorus]
And I got strangers moving in in my own backyard
Hometown battlefield, times is hard
Crime is risin', on my horizon
And it's getting mighty hard for folks to find a job
A lot of folks say that the times is changing
But the more things change, the more they stay the same
And I don't know where I'm gonna go, I don't know, I don't know

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That? Am I supposed to feel differently? Because, based on that it's just not happenin'. Provocative + vulgar doesn't necessarily mean good. Sorry.