What are your beliefs?

[bell-the-cat]

Re: What are your beliefs?

I think you're very wrong about why people don't believe. The atheists and agnostics I know (myself included) lead moral lives. That's a mistake a lot of people make. Do you think if there wasn't religion, people would run around lying cheating and stealing in absurd numbers? I don't think so... I think our moral ideals come from what's necessary to be able to live with other people in a society.

Actually, they probably would run around lying, cheating, and stealing, and do far worse. Religion exists primarily as an easy way to control the ignorant masses without actually having to do the difficult things like creating a society with the moral ideals where people would all want to live together peacefully.

Maybe we need organised religions to protect us from the religious, just like we need laws and police to protect us from criminals.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: What are your beliefs?

Don't be mean to Bell. That 'angers the Anahita' (joke per one by Anonymouse, earlier.)

Thank you Anahita.

Did Bell say 'athiest?' Maybe is, I don't know.

No, I said 'atheist'. That jerk Crusader said 'athiest'.

[Siggie]

Re: What are your beliefs?

Actually, they probably would run around lying, cheating, and stealing, and do far worse. Religion exists primarily as an easy way to control the ignorant masses without actually having to do the difficult things like creating a society with the moral ideals where people would all want to live together peacefully.

Maybe we need organised religions to protect us from the religious, just like we need laws and police to protect us from criminals.

I disgree... Society would have punishments to deter the small fraction who would. People are social beings and we need to interact with other people. If someone did those things they'd likely be cast out in some way and that would hurt their survival. It's much more "profitable" to be cooperative.

[Anonymouse]

Re: What are your beliefs?

Actually, they probably would run around lying, cheating, and stealing, and do far worse. Religion exists primarily as an easy way to control the ignorant masses without actually having to do the difficult things like creating a society with the moral ideals where people would all want to live together peacefully.

Maybe we need organised religions to protect us from the religious, just like we need laws and police to protect us from criminals.

Religion scares Steven, now Steven scares religion. I'd say you're even Steven.

[ArmenianSon]

Re: What are your beliefs?

My beliefs eversince I was a kid & can rember was believing in God. So I am a Christian & believe in God. The funny things is how some people have totally diffrent taughts about God which is funny, yet sad. If you dont believe in God look in the mirror at yourself & really think about can we really come from a big bang or monkeys.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: What are your beliefs?

My beliefs eversince I was a kid & can rember was believing in God. So I am a Christian & believe in God.

So we have yet another 'popped out of the womb a full-formed Christian'.

can we really come from a big bang or monkeys.

In your case maybe it was a big monkey gang-bang.

[Siggie]

Re: What are your beliefs?

My beliefs eversince I was a kid & can rember was believing in God. So I am a Christian & believe in God. The funny things is how some people have totally diffrent taughts about God which is funny, yet sad. If you dont believe in God look in the mirror at yourself & really think about can we really come from a big bang or monkeys.

This is what I dislike... Never did I say anything to try to talk anyone out of believing in God, being christian, etc, yet people never fail to do it to me.

Yes, I can look in the mirror and believe that. Billions of years of evolution can do that and getting your facts staights is helpful as well because no one said we came from monkeys, but rather that we had a common ancestor. There's a difference.

I said before that I wouldn't debate this stuff and I have stayed out of these discussions because I lack the patience, but if you're interested, here's just one of the threads on the subject.

http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=2454

[Ari]

Re: What are your beliefs?

Armenian Orthodox Apostolic i think :P

Can someone explain to me what Apostolic is?

I'm confused cos some books say where Armenian Apostolic others say Armenian Christian and then Armenian Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox Apostolic

What is the main religion in Armenia?

[loseyourname]

Re: What are your beliefs?

What is the main religion in Armenia?

Convoluted.

[Anahita]

Re: What are your beliefs?

First, I don’t know why people assume that belief in G-d is belief in the Christian version of ‘G-d.’ There are MANY things messed up about Christianity. A few that come to mind are:

1. I don’t believe that Jesus is ‘the’ G-d anymore than Zeus, Elvis, King Tut, Aphrodite, etc.

2. This concept of forgiveness seems to be often twisted by some Christians into absurd ideas. There are people who believe that they can do anything and just ‘be saved.’ (I’ve never understood what people think that means, though.)

3. Why not think that G-d is a scientist, and musician, and artist in general… and everything else (including maybe the ‘inventor’ of evolution.)

Etc.

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/wilco/jesusetc.html

I wonder if the brothers get a kick outa this...