Armenians from turkey

[dani87]

Re: Armenians from turkey

There are already hundreds of Diaspora Armenians settled in Artsakh and if you wish you can become one of them. Live in Artsakh until we liberate Van and then you, along with many others, can settle in Western Armenia. Van, my friends, is much closer from Artsakh than from Sweden.

dani, i believe all our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them!

Amen to that

[Kanki]

Re: Armenians from turkey

@dani,I am not a pure armenian,i am a 1/8 armenian.But i think it is not about your blood.The tradegy of my family affects me much i just only want to talk about those things.

I am not living in istanbul.
I am not sure there are any people in turkey that accepts arm gen.From the outside of turkey,i see people that believe in turkish nationalism as a holy religion-no discussion no anti arguments,no free speak-if u are opposes to the official thesis,u can be even killed by the state like Hrant Dink.
Infact my main problem is living in turkey like a slave.I both want to speak the arm gen with free people and meet arm friends to see what the arm culture is.

Hey I am Turk and I am Turkish Nationalist!
By the Way, I am in Ankara too (I am undergraduate in Bilkent University/Departmant Of Law)
I laughed your messege!!! What are saying? You must know "Türk'ün kanı pis kandır" Hrant Dink said and wrote! (It's meaning "Turks have xxxxty blood") So everybody reacted his letters and interviews!
If I were in Armenia,and wrote "Armenians have xxxxty blood", What would Armenian people do!????
and In addition, Ogün Samast who is Murder is not nationalist!Businessman organized this massacre in order to make chaos and benefit this sitution! They ran their own media...And earned money!! Hrant Dink attentat is not relevant with Nationalizm!
And you said!!

"a holy religion-no discussion no anti arguments"
Are you sure that???
If your people slang Turkish nation,No one allow!!! your people only slang so no discussion about it!!!

[garod]

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Hey I am Turk and I am Turkish Nationalist!
By the Way, I am in Ankara too (I am undergraduate in Bilkent University/Departmant Of Law)
I laughed your messege!!! What are saying? You must know "Türk'ün kanı pis kandır" Hrant Dink said and wrote! (It's meaning "Turks have xxxxty blood") So everybody reacted his letters and interviews!
If I were in Armenia,and wrote "Armenians have xxxxty blood", What would Armenian people do!????
and In addition, Ogün Samast who is Murder is not nationalist!Businessman organized this massacre in order to make chaos and benefit this sitution! They ran their own media...And earned money!! Hrant Dink attentat is not relevant with Nationalizm!
And you said!!

"a holy religion-no discussion no anti arguments"
Are you sure that???
If your people slang Turkish nation,No one allow!!! your people only slang so no discussion about it!!!

You are totally wrong.Hrant Dink didn't say that Turkish blood is dirty. He tried to tell Turkish hatred which poison Armenians' blood and soul.Shortly He criticized hatred and nationalism not Turkishness.

Also Ogun Samast is an ignorant nationalist boy who was used by nationalist big brothers as a toy.On the contrary if someone had said its Armenian version in Armenia as Hrant did in Turkey, most probably he had been killed too.There are lots of events in the past as asala.Nationalism always choose young people due to their self proving wish, big energy and ignorance.

[Kanki]

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You are totally wrong.Hrant Dink didn't say that Turkish blood is dirty. He tried to tell Turkish hatred which poison Armenians' blood and soul.Shortly He criticized hatred and nationalism not Turkishness.

Also Ogun Samast is an ignorant nationalist boy who was used by nationalist big brothers as a toy.On the contrary if someone had said its Armenian version in Armenia as Hrant did in Turkey, most probably he had been killed too.There are lots of events in the past as asala.Nationalism always choose young people due to their self proving wish, big energy and ignorance.

No I am not wrong. But also I agree with you in some features i your letter...yes he was igronant but his nationalist feelings don't exemplify all Turks' patriotism or nationalizm...
As you said he is igronant...Also his big brother are igronant too... If you followed the media..You would see this massacre was a secret plan from some businessmans,they organized apperantly...Because Doğan LTD earned a lot of money and their media(Channel D, CNNTürk etc) always blowed with bellows.

So it is irrelevant with nationalizm, They masked with "Nationalizm" but it is not real reason.

[Virgil]

Re: Armenians from turkey

You are totally wrong.Hrant Dink didn't say that Turkish blood is dirty. He tried to tell Turkish hatred which poison Armenians' blood and soul.Shortly He criticized hatred and nationalism not Turkishness.

Also Ogun Samast is an ignorant nationalist boy who was used by nationalist big brothers as a toy.On the contrary if someone had said its Armenian version in Armenia as Hrant did in Turkey, most probably he had been killed too.There are lots of events in the past as asala.Nationalism always choose young people due to their self proving wish, big energy and ignorance.

xxxx you, this has nothing to do with "nationalism", take your anti-nationalistic stance to a Turkish forum, go convince your fellow Turks to accept their historic crimes, to accept the fact that Cyprus has a right to exist, to accept the fact that the Armenians have a right to self determination, and to accept the fact that Artsahk is part of Armenia.

No, asswipe, nationalism is why your degenerate ass stole 90% of historic Armenia, don't come here and pretend to be this "holier than thou" individual, your entire nations base was built on the minorities that you conviently murdered and now don't come here and pretend your crimes are abolished. Turks can go to Armenia and apologize, they can not go there and spit on the memories of their ancestors that were brutally murdered, yes, you are right, if you honestly think anyone would accept those demands then you are both dillusional and stupid. It would be equivalent of going to the Washington War Memorial and trying to convince people Pearl Harbor was historical fabrication.

It wouldn't suprise me if you were Armenian, I spit on you and your existence and if you are a Turk, by all means, take your "Peace loving ass" to a Turkish forum, we don't take advice from people that don't have our best interests in mind.

As you said he is igronant...Also his big brother are igronant too... If you followed the media..You would see this massacre was a secret plan from some businessmans,they organized apperantly...Because Doğan LTD earned a lot of money and their media(Channel D, CNNTürk etc) always blowed with bellows.

So it is irrelevant with nationalizm, They masked with "Nationalizm" but it is not real reason.

I can't believe the Armenian moderators allow you people to post here under these pretenses? What the xxxx do you want? What do you want to convince Armenains of? That a genocide in which most of their ancestors who are living have nightmares about everynight? Had nightmares when they are living? Take your filthy mongol ass out of this forum, you disgust me. Yes, asswipe, Hrant Dink was assasinated, you supported his assasination and anyone that writes otherwise a big fat lier.

The reality is that Turks and the government try their best to hide the pink elephant in the room, but you can hide it for only so long. Your entire nation is being built on nationalism, don't come here and pollute our national spirit.

[Virgil]

Re: Armenians from turkey

Hey I am Turk and I am Turkish Nationalist!
By the Way, I am in Ankara too (I am undergraduate in Bilkent University/Departmant Of Law)
I laughed your messege!!! What are saying? You must know "Türk'ün kanı pis kandır" Hrant Dink said and wrote! (It's meaning "Turks have xxxxty blood") So everybody reacted his letters and interviews!
If I were in Armenia,and wrote "Armenians have xxxxty blood", What would Armenian people do!????
and In addition, Ogün Samast who is Murder is not nationalist!Businessman organized this massacre in order to make chaos and benefit this sitution! They ran their own media...And earned money!! Hrant Dink attentat is not relevant with Nationalizm!
And you said!!

"a holy religion-no discussion no anti arguments"
Are you sure that???
If your people slang Turkish nation,No one allow!!! your people only slang so no discussion about it!!!

Regarding, "dirty Turkish blood", go read about how Turks stole Christian children, of how they use to cut the balls off the boy and convince to fight in the name Islam against the very same villages they were stolen from. Don't forget the harems that the christian girls were sent to after being stolen and the fact that each and every Turk claims to be from "Asia", but yet, looks nothing like a Asian. This is xxxxing ridiculous, you and your people are dillusional, what the xxxx do want from Armenains? To just lay down and die? I am about to get a heart attack, you're such a lying sack of xxxx.

[garod]

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xxxx you, this has nothing to do with "nationalism", take your anti-nationalistic stance to a Turkish forum, go convince your fellow Turks to accept their historic crimes, to accept the fact that Cyprus has a right to exist, to accept the fact that the Armenians have a right to self determination, and to accept the fact that Artsahk is part of Armenia.

No, asswipe, nationalism is why your degenerate ass stole 90% of historic Armenia, don't come here and pretend to be this "holier than thou" individual, your entire nations base was built on the minorities that you conviently murdered and now don't come here and pretend your crimes are abolished. Turks can go to Armenia and apologize, they can not go there and spit on the memories of their ancestors that were brutally murdered, yes, you are right, if you honestly think anyone would accept those demands then you are both dillusional and stupid. It would be equivalent of going to the Washington War Memorial and trying to convince people Pearl Harbor was historical fabrication.

It wouldn't suprise me if you were Armenian, I spit on you and your existence and if you are a Turk, by all means, take your "Peace loving ass" to a Turkish forum, we don't take advice from people that don't have our best interests in mind.

Sounds like woof woof and bow wow

[crusader1492]

Re: Armenians from turkey

Sounds like woof woof and bow wow

This is an Armenian forum. Stop writing in Turkish

[garod]

Re: Armenians from turkey

No I am not wrong. But also I agree with you in some features i your letter...yes he was igronant but his nationalist feelings don't exemplify all Turks' patriotism or nationalizm...
As you said he is igronant...Also his big brother are igronant too... If you followed the media..You would see this massacre was a secret plan from some businessmans,they organized apperantly...Because Doğan LTD earned a lot of money and their media(Channel D, CNNTürk etc) always blowed with bellows.

So it is irrelevant with nationalizm, They masked with "Nationalizm" but it is not real reason.

These words are just paranoia. Yes media affects our lives,show some people as guilty, target and earn lots of money with big events but Hrant's death is different.Firstly some nationalistic associations (as police) in the state supported this murder or turned a blind eye.Killer has been seen as a hero by some nationalist people in the state.You talk about Dogan Ltd. but you know also newspaper Radikal belongs to this company.This newspaper is one of the best in Turkey and wrote lots of truth regarding assassination.This newspaper's writers cried for Hrant in their articles.Editor of Radikal, İsmet Berkan is married with Selin.She is Onno Tuncboyaciyan's daughter and niece of Arto Tuncboyaciyan.I don't think that this crime is as simple as this and result of businessmen.This is result of nationalistic politics.You use media mask for showing how you are right and how it is not about nationalism.

[garod]

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xxxx you, this has nothing to do with "nationalism", take your anti-nationalistic stance to a Turkish forum, go convince your fellow Turks to accept their historic crimes, to accept the fact that Cyprus has a right to exist, to accept the fact that the Armenians have a right to self determination, and to accept the fact that Artsahk is part of Armenia.

No, asswipe, nationalism is why your degenerate ass stole 90% of historic Armenia, don't come here and pretend to be this "holier than thou" individual, your entire nations base was built on the minorities that you conviently murdered and now don't come here and pretend your crimes are abolished. Turks can go to Armenia and apologize, they can not go there and spit on the memories of their ancestors that were brutally murdered, yes, you are right, if you honestly think anyone would accept those demands then you are both dillusional and stupid. It would be equivalent of going to the Washington War Memorial and trying to convince people Pearl Harbor was historical fabrication.

It wouldn't suprise me if you were Armenian, I spit on you and your existence and if you are a Turk, by all means, take your "Peace loving ass" to a Turkish forum, we don't take advice from people that don't have our best interests in mind..

I forgot to add something. How can you have a right to swear to me? and I couldn't understand why nobody does something for blocking this?Also what's problem with ass?If you like this word too much, you can go on talking to my ass.