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[Federate]

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I found that out the hard way. My priest had me read one of his articles back to him (it was in EA). The word was «յոթ» and I read as "hōt" instead of "yōt". Needless to say, he quickly corrected me.

Since you mentioned priest, I had heard about the religious institutions in Armenia (or was it only Echmiadzin ) are reverting back to traditional orthography. Can anyone confirm this?

[Federate]

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As for the Eastern Armenian last names, the reason why it's transliterated to "yan" is because Eastern Armenians write their last names with «յան» ending and spelling. In Eastern Armenian, you read the letter « յ » like a "y" as opposed to Western Armenian where that same letter is read like an "h".

BTW, an exception to this is in Iran. Everyone speaks Eastern Armenian yet they write with traditional orthography just like Western Armenians. The spelling reform of the Armenian SSR didn't reach Iran.

[vasbourakan1]

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welcome vrtanes if I counted well you speak, write and read abt eight languages, most of us do it four, that's excellent for you, it shows the high ability of armenians
in what concerns the yan and ian, my idea is that as mentioned by federate our family names should end with ean, but my interpretation is different since in armenian this ending is a mark of a belonging to a family (sarkissian, bedrossian), or place (yerevanian, sislian), or profession (hatsakorzian, demirjian -even if this one has a turkish consonance) etc, etc, .. in short meaning belonging to something, that's why 'ean' is much adquate than the used ian and yan

[Mimi]

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Welcome

[Azad]

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in exchange ill teach greek and arabic and i can teach people how to read in hebrew, russian, assyrian and korean as well i dont speak the languages that well at all but its fun to read and write in them:P

Any Assyrians in your family? The reason I am questioning ... cause the only people that do surpass Armenians in languages are the Assyrians.

[yerazhishda]

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That's because there's only 70,000 last time I checked.

[TomServo]

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Du Araberen khosum es el? Gitum chei, inju sovorum eir?

So now you're practicing eastern?

I don't speak it and I'm not learning it.

[Vrtanes]

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Shnorhagaloutyoun

My other half is Australian, but I dont associate with that culture at all.

On my mothers side is full Armenian, my grandfather is born in palestine (jerusalem) both his parents are Armenian they were originally from Urfa (before AG), and my grandmother in Syria - her mother was Assyrian and her father was Armenian.

Kidem that most names are եան, բայց Էսմէրիան is not spelled Էսմերեան: chem kider why not, but I have signatures of my great great grandfather who spells his surname Էսմէրիան: but anyway you are all right it is still pronounced 'es-mer-yan'. Aussies are shocking ive heard them trying to prounce my name, Esmerian is pretty simple compared to other Armenian surnames you all must agree to that:P ive heard them prounced my last name as 'ez-meer-ee-yan' lol hahaha. AND 'Khachadryan' they prounced it 'kar-chard-rai-yan' omg wallah its sooo awful to hear it from an aussies mouth haha.

I'm not actually sure what it means 'Esmer', im thinking it could be an Assyrian word? and its def not turkish, kurdish or azerbaijani, so dont ask. all my Greek friends think it is a Greek word lol.

I reckon they should revert back to the traditional way, the reformed way was because of Soviet Union, they wanted to make it simpler when learning Armenian lol, well c'mon its not that hard to learn the rules, like յ is h at start and y everywhere else and sometiems silent etc. ah well.

I much prefer Western Armenian, Eastern (Classic) should only be spoken in the church I think.

Thank you everyone, and if u ever want help with Greek or Arabic, please ask, and i can teach you to read and write in many languages just for the fun of it there is no such thing as useless knowledge

[yerazhishda]

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So now you're practicing eastern?

I don't speak it and I'm not learning it.

No, but just from being on this forum I'm learning it (seeing other people write it and such)! Thought it was kinda cool. Sorry.

I didn't know you can speak Arabic. How did you learn?

[Yedtarts]

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I'm not actually sure what it means 'Esmer', im thinking it could be an Assyrian word? and its def not turkish, kurdish or azerbaijani, so dont ask. all my Greek friends think it is a Greek word lol.

Esmer is turkish, means dark skin, in Armenian we say "tookh"