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  • #31
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    I find it very hard to believe that Erdogan is pulling this off all by himself. Even the police members used to be in the military at one point and one can assume where their true loyalty might be.

    Have you considered the possibility that the Turkish military command is no longer completely aware of what is going on within its own ranks………..especially when there is a good possibility that these documents came from a military source. I am not arguing that these documents could have been doctored against these top military officials but still, it doesn’t mean that it wasn’t from within.

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    The Kafes, or cage, plot was an alleged attempt by Turkey's secular military to destabilise the governing Justice and Development (AK) Party by provoking political and religious minorities to act against the government.
    Details of the plot emerged when Taraf, an independent Turkish newspaper, published leaked documents on the affair in December 2009.

    Below are excerpts from the documents, dated 2003 and signed by Col Levent Goktas.
    Those allegedly involved have yet to come to trial, but a decision on the matter is believed to be imminent.

    1. Preparation

    Collect names and addresses of non-Muslims in Turkey, the subscription lists of publications owned by non-Muslims, names of workers, parents and students of non-Muslim educational facilities, the foundations and places of worship of non-Muslims.

    Find out what are the significant religious dates and holidays for non-Muslims in Turkey and where their cemetaries are located.

    2. Creating Fear

    Publish the subscription list of Agos [a liberal Armenian newspaper, once edited by the murdered Hrant Dink] on fundamentalist Islamist websites.

    Make threatening phone calls and send threatening letters to the subscribers to Agos.

    Graffiti/post threatening slogans on walls in places where there is high non-Muslim foot traffic.

    3. Public support

    Publish the Agos subscription lists in the national press/get them in the news.

    Get "friendly columnists" to write about what is going on.

    Get the topic discussed on debate programmes on television. Emphasize how the AK Party is "apathetic" about what is going on.

    Increase activities and traffic on anti-AK Party websites.

    Create websites that look like they are AK Party sourced. Put religious content on them targetting Agos and religious minority media.

    4. Actions

    Bomb attacks on the islands [located off Istanbul] where large numbers of non-Muslims live.

    Bombs to be placed in the ferry terminal for the islands

    Defenders of minority rights to be assassinated.

    Percussion bombs placed in and around places like Agos' premises.

    Sensational attacks on non-Muslim cemetaries.

    Famous non-Muslim businessmen and artists to be kidnapped.

    Cars, residences and workplaces of non-Muslims to be torched.

    Bombings and arson attacks on areas of Istanbul and Izmir where non-Muslims live.

    All to be co-ordinated through the Special Plan Cell, but the blame placed on Islamic fundamentalist groups.
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    • #32
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      Originally posted by Muhaha View Post
      ^^^^^^^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uxTpyCdriY ^^^^^^^

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      • #33
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        Originally posted by ara87 View Post
        That was hillerious man!
        Hayastan or Bust.

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        • #34
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          Turkey blames everybody but itself
          If there was an award for passing the buck and blaming others, Turkey would surely be near the top of the nominee list. It really never ceases to amaze just how often Turkey does this. These days, US President Barack Obama has been on the receiving end of Turkey’s wrath, with Ankara accusing Washington of having no strategic vision and of failing to take the necessary steps to prevent the approval of the Armenian “genocide” resolution by the US House Foreign Relations Committee last week. I sometimes wonder who is the superpower, the US or Turkey? In any case, between now and April 24, when Obama delivers his annual message, Turkey will be obsessed. It is really sad that we have to witness this scene over and over again. Turkey’s criticism has been ever harsher this year, and Ankara seems to be expecting Obama to resolve this issue once and for all. If he does not, well, as Foreign Minister Davutoğlu has threatened, strategic ties may go adrift -- meaning that Turkey will develop even closer ties with the Russians, Iranians, Africans, South Americans, etc., with Turkey possibly becoming an increasingly unreliable partner for the West. With the ambassador already recalled and State Minister Zafer Çağlayan’s visit cancelled, Turkey is really piling on the pressure. Çağlayan’s visit was supposed to develop further economic ties with the US under a model partnership framework suggested by Obama. With Prime Minister Erdoğan due to visit Washington in April, what will happen next is anybody’s guess, but I would expect once we get into May the rocky sea will calm down again.
          I don’t believe Obama can make the genocide issue disappear as Turkey requests. In fact, the genocide issue is not going to go away in the US or anywhere else, with the Swedish parliament narrowly approving a resolution last Thursday recognizing the 1915 mass killing of Armenians in Turkey as genocide and prompting the Turkish government to recall its ambassador there, too, in protest. While Foreign Minister Carl Bildt said he regretted the decision because it would serve as another blow to Turkey’s reconciliation with Armenia, the fact is that Turkey could have moved the process forward months ago but preferred not to. So now they blame the US, the Swedes and the Armenians. In fact, anybody but themselves. If Turkey believed reconciliation with Armenia would make the genocide issue go away, then they were and are fooling themselves. As long as there is an Armenian diaspora on this planet, they will continue to push everywhere they can for recognition of the genocide, no matter how many historic commissions or rapprochements there are. The genocide issue is their life’s cause.

          In addition, the Jan. 12 ruling by the Armenian Constitutional Court resulted in Turkey questioning whether Armenia remains committed to their promise to ratify the two protocols for the normalization of relations with Turkey. Perhaps Ankara would do well to take a good look in the mirror. It is Turkey more than any other entity that is responsible for the difficulty in the current reconciliation. Turkey has crippled the process by insisting on a parallel process on the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, which is clearly not going to happen any time soon. And here again Turkey blames Armenia for the lack of progress when in fact Armenia is no more to blame than Azerbaijan.

          Turkey is well aware that the process is in danger of failing and is looking everywhere it can to find others to blame. Probably it would please Ankara no end if Armenia were to announce that it was fed up with Turkey’s imposed Karabakh preconditions and withdraw its signature from the protocols -- as they have threatened to do. This would give Turkey the perfect scapegoat for the failure of the process. If I were sitting in Yerevan, I would do precisely the opposite. I would not withdraw the signature; rather, I would take the initiative and have the protocols ratified in the Armenian parliament as soon as possible.

          And of course the blame game is not simply limited to this issue; it is alive and kicking on many others, too. On Cyprus Turkey always claims to be driving forward a solution and continues to deny any wrongdoing in the past rather continuing to state that its role in the Cyprus conflict was to bring peace to the island and placing the blame elsewhere for the continued division. It is the same when it comes to the membership negotiations with the EU. Blame for the stagnation of the talks always lies at the feet of the EU. But this approach should come as no big surprise given the fact that many Turks are simply unable to accept or acknowledged that their country, and the Ottoman Empire before it, has ever behaved in a way that was less than perfect. They are unable to deal with the past and have trouble acknowledging that sometimes Turkey does make mistakes. Rather they prefer to point the finger at others.
          http://www.sundayszaman.com/sunday/y...haberno=204241
          It's a great article considering its from a turk.

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          • #35
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            Blast targets Turkey oil pipeline

            An explosion along an oil pipeline passing through southeastern Turkey has killed at least two people and injured another.

            The blast on Tuesday night started a "major fire" and caused the pipeline to be shut down, a government official told the Reuters news agency.

            The explosion struck the pipeline in Turkey's Mardin region near the village of Midyat.

            Two people travelling in a car were killed by the blast, the AFP news agency reported, though it was unclear whether they were civilians.

            The damaged pipeline runs for 970km from Kirkuk, a northern Iraqi city claimed by the Kurds, to Ceyhan, an oil transportation hub on the Mediterranean Sea.

            Government officials told the AFP that they suspect the Kurdish Workers Party or PKK carried out the attack.

            The PKK, listed as a terrorist group by Ankara and much of the international community, took up arms for Kurdish self-rule in the southeast in 1984, sparking a conflict that has claimed more than 40,000 lives.

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            • #36
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              Kurds have been picking up their attacks as they had promised to Turkey. This wouldn’t be the first time they have targeted pipelines.

              BTW, in case anyone is wondering.

              Ocalan controls PKK......Deep State controls Ocalan.
              B0zkurt Hunter

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              • #37
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                German experts say Turkey using chemical weapons
                by Tina Redlup on August 13, 2010

                German experts have confirmed the authenticity of photographs that show Kurdistan Workers' Party fighters killed in Turkey by chemical weapons.

                The photographs, IsraelNationalNews.com reports, were published in the German magazine Der Spiegel earlier this week. They were given to a German human rights delegation by activists in March, according to the report. The photographs depicted scorched and maimed body parts that were barely recognizable as human.

                Hans Bauman, a German photo forgery expert, confirmed the authenticity of the photos, IsraelNationalNews.com reports. The eight dead PKK fighters are believed to have been killed in September of 2009. A forensics report released by the Hamburg University Hospital concluded that the eight Kurds were likely killed due to the use of chemical weapons.

                Turkey has been suspected of using chemical weapons against Kurdish rebels for some time. The existence of these photos has now placed increasing pressure on Turkey to offer explanations, according to the report.

                Claudia Roth, co-chair of Germany's Green Party, is among those who wants to place pressure on Turkey to answer for the photographs.

                “The latest findings are so spectacular that the Turkish side urgently needs to explain things,” Roth told IsraelNationalNews.com. “It is impossible to understand why an autopsy of the PKK fighters was ordered but the results kept under seal.”

                Roth also demanded Turkey issue an official statement on the possible use of chemical weapons.

                The Turkish Foreign Ministry, however, has denied its activity in the attack, telling media it is a signatory to the Chemical Weapons Convention and that its armed forces do not possess any biological or chemical weapons.

                The United States recently announced that it has sided with Turkey and that it regards the PKK as a terrorist group.

                “We stand ready to review urgently any new requests from the Turkish military or government regarding the PKK,” Ambassador James Jeffrey said in a statement at the end of June. “The PKK is a common enemy of both Turkey and the U.S. and we actively support the efforts of our Turkish allies to defeat this terrorist threat.”
                Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                • #38
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                  US issues arms deal ultimatum to Turkey
                  Posted on August 16, 2010, 9:22 am

                  President Barack Obama has personally warned Turkey's prime minister that unless Ankara shifts its position on Israel and Iran it stands little chance of obtaining the US weapons it wants to buy.

                  According to The Financial Times Mr Obama's warning to Recep Tayyip Erdogan is particularly significant as Ankara wants to buy American drone aircraft - such as the missile-bearing Reaper - to attack the Kurdish separatist PKK after the US military pulls out of Iraq at the end of 2011.

                  Article continues at


                  Originally posted in www.ft.com
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                  • #39
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                    Well that was quick...

                    White House denies giving Turkey ultimatum over Israel, Iran
                    2 hours ago

                    MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin (AFP) – The White House on Monday denied press reports that President Barack Obama warned Turkey it could lose its chance to obtain US-made weapons over its position on Israel and Iran.

                    Britain's Financial Times newspaper quoted a senior official as saying that Obama told Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan that "some of the actions that Turkey has taken have caused questions to be raised on the Hill" referring to the US Congress.

                    These questions centered on "whether we can have confidence in Turkey as an ally," said the official.

                    But while he confirmed the two leaders spoke several days ago, White House spokesman Bill Burton denied that any "ultimatum" had been issued to Ankara.

                    Full article at
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                    • #40
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                      Iran-Armenia relations and the ‘genocide’

                      Iranian Vice President Hamid Baghaei’s remarks last week that the deportation of Armenians in 1915 amounted to genocide have understandably drawn ire in Turkey.

                      The Iranian Embassy in Ankara soon after released a statement claiming that Baghaei’s position on the matter had not been accurately reflected by media outlets. Turkey, nevertheless, was obviously not satisfied with this explanation. Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu was reported to have told his Iranian counterpart Manouchehr Mottaki that Turkey was awaiting a correction from Baghaei himself.

                      I humbly think that the timing of this statement, which has the appearances of someone shooting themselves in the foot, is indeed quite interesting. But in order to understand the factors that might have motivated Baghaei, one should embrace the issue in question from a broader perspective and rather focus on Iran’s respective relations with both Azerbaijan and Armenia.

                      An Islamic republic favoring an avowedly Christian state in a conflict with its predominantly Muslim neighbor would normally seem unlikely, but this is exactly what Tehran did during the war between Armenia and Azerbaijan in the early 1990s. Since then, Iran has indeed been predisposed toward supporting Yerevan over Baku on regional issues, but first and foremost the Karabakh dispute.

                      There are a great variety of reasons behind this support, but I will list here only the three most crucial: At present, the number of ethnic Armenians living in Iran is estimated to be about only 100,000, constituting the country’s largest Christian minority. On the other hand, the number of ethnic Azeris living in Iran is at least 20 million, though there is some dispute about this figure, which is affected by the differing perspectives and motivations that the issue is approached with. These people have been integrated into Iranian society and hold important positions in the higher echelons of the state like Seyyed Ali Khamanei, the supreme leader who succeeded Ayatollah Khomeni. Nonetheless, the Iranian establishment sees these people as a potential secessionist threat, actually one to be provoked by Azerbaijan should it regain its territories still under Armenian occupation. It is precisely for this reason that Tehran attempts to strategically balance Azerbaijan with its arch-enemy Armenia.

                      What also disturbs Tehran is Azerbaijan’s close relations with Western countries, first and foremost the U.S. and Israel. Given its deeply antagonistic relationship with these two countries, Iran has in the past strongly opposed Western proposals for the deployment of international peacekeeping forces in Karabakh, fearing it might eventually result in its further encirclement by the U.S. (and thus Israel).

                      This Iranian concern has also been underlined by circles close to the Turkish government and seems evident in what a figure in the entourage of Prime Minister Recep T. Erdoğan relates about nearly every occasion that the Iranians have been requested to use their leverage over Armenia to resolve the deadlock. “Yet each time we raise this issue,” says this official, “the Iranians respond by pointing out Baku’s strengthening relations with Israel.”

                      The third reason is related to Iran’s economic considerations. Indeed, Iran is one of Armenia’s major trade partners. Not only do Iranian goods flood the Armenian market. More importantly, Tehran supplies Yerevan with significant volumes of natural gas. Recently, it has also helped to construct hydroelectric dams on the Araz River. Actually, the bilateral economic relations are so intense that Iranian businessmen, as well as local authorities of those regions bordering Armenia, are rumored to nowadays be occupying the streets of Yerevan as part of Iran’s preparations against the sanctions imposed by the United Nations.

                      In comparison to the state of Tehran’s economic relations with Yerevan, however, those with Baku are highly problematic. This is well illustrated in the serious competition between Tehran and Baku over disputed Caspian oil and gas reserves.

                      In such a milieu, the Turks hope that the addressee of the unambiguous message sent by Mr. Baghaei was not Turkey. Mr. Baghaei might be intent on making a gesture to Armenia, but he would do well to heed a Turkish proverb that I believe has relevance: While trying to pluck one's eyebrows, one should not pluck out one’s eyes.

                      The Turkish people indeed expect Mr. Bahgaei to provide a sincere correction!

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