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  • #11
    Originally posted by loseyourname Send a pm to ckBejug. She told me her brother was running his campaign, but I have no idea what the guy's name is.
    George Kivork is his name.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by jilbagh I didn't know Paul Johnson or Eli Segal were Armenian
      Neither Paul nor Eli are Armenian. One of Clark's bigger campaign financiers is Armenian as far as I know. My brother is Armenian (obviously) and he's running things in Michigan.....

      Originally posted by jilbagh does that mean if Gen. Clark is elected, he will promise and follow through his promise to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide?

      This may be the election where we may have a candidate that may actaully do it. Sen. Kerry and Edwards have been vocal on this issue, and with you informing me that Gen. Clark's Campaign Mgr. is Armenian...i'd like to hear him address the Armenian issues, (sect. 907, genocide recognition, foriegn aid)
      No, that means if Clark wins he'll actually follow through on his promise (not just promise to follow through). I don't know any of this politics lingo but from what I remember my brother wrote Clark's armenian genocide platform (is that what it's called?). I asked him to send me a copy of the speech he wrote with Clark, he's going to send it to me tomorrow. The speech, along with other correspondence from the General, has been sent to Asbarez. However, those dang Bush lovers at Asbarez completely flubbed the whole thing and have made it look like Clark has not taken any stand whatsoever on the issue, which I know to be completely false. Asbarez has since written a retraction but the damage was done, right? Personally I'd favor any Democrat to be in office over Bush. All of the candidates have mentioned something about the genocide, but I think Clark would actually do a kick ass job following through. I'm not just saying that because I'm biased. =)
      The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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      • #13
        Originally posted by ckBejug Neither Paul nor Eli are Armenian. One of Clark's bigger campaign financiers is Armenian as far as I know. My brother is Armenian (obviously) and he's running things in Michigan.....



        No, that means if Clark wins he'll actually follow through on his promise (not just promise to follow through). I don't know any of this politics lingo but from what I remember my brother wrote Clark's armenian genocide platform (is that what it's called?). I asked him to send me a copy of the speech he wrote with Clark, he's going to send it to me tomorrow. The speech, along with other correspondence from the General, has been sent to Asbarez. However, those dang Bush lovers at Asbarez completely flubbed the whole thing and have made it look like Clark has not taken any stand whatsoever on the issue, which I know to be completely false. Asbarez has since written a retraction but the damage was done, right? Personally I'd favor any Democrat to be in office over Bush. All of the candidates have mentioned something about the genocide, but I think Clark would actually do a kick ass job following through. I'm not just saying that because I'm biased. =)
        ya Asbarez needs to wake their asses up and stop being blind. After Bush declaring Armenian a terrorist state, declining foriegn aid, not following through on HIS genocide promise...that paper needs to be totally rejuved and struck with some reality....can u email me the transcript when u get your hands on it? Clark is one of my favorites

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        • #14
          Clark looks Armenian. Hes my favorite right after Kerry.
          Kerry is one of 5 Senators that sent a letter to bush urging him to urge erdrogan to open the border. And he has made it clear that he supports recognition of the Genocide.

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          • #15
            So Clark is out. Do you guys think Kerry can beat Bush? So I was reading something about the exit polls they did, and people were asked if they voted for Kerry because the agreed with him on major issues or is they voted for him because they thought he could beat Bush in Novenmber... A majority of the voters said it was because they thought he could beat Bush. I guess that means when it comes time for voting in November, they are going to vote for the guy they agree with on the issues... right?? Which means they probably wont vote for Kerry??
            Last edited by ckBejug; 02-11-2004, 08:22 AM.
            The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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            • #16
              i saw at a Kerry speach that there was this campaign placard reading "Armenians for Kerry", has Kerry done anything in particular to get this placard, or is it simply as most placards in these situations are, a campaign managed written placard to get Armo votes?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by TigranJamharian Clark looks Armenian. Hes my favorite right after Kerry.
                Kerry is one of 5 Senators that sent a letter to bush urging him to urge erdrogan to open the border. And he has made it clear that he supports recognition of the Genocide.
                i didnt know you had alzheimers shahumyan

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                • #18
                  Yea, how many presidents talk of "supporting the Genocide" yet back down. Come on politics is politics. It's for votes and the stupid masses go for it.

                  Kerry will be elected, or Bush. Both are a member of the Skull and Bones fraternity. The differences are external, designed to give people a false reality, and deceive.

                  Republicans borrow and add on to the debt, Democrats tax and add on to the debt.
                  Achkerov kute.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by TigranJamharian i didnt know you had alzheimers shahumyan
                    why the xxxx would i have alzheimers?

                    you could have just pointed out that the reason for the placard is such and such. I dont even think they are good enough reasons, so i thought there must be other reasons to, since every xxxxer seems to say they accept the genocide, and since when was opening bordeers going to help Armenia, the market would be flooded with turkish goods and armenian companies would go tits up

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Shahumyan why the xxxx would i have alzheimers?

                      you could have just pointed out that the reason for the placard is such and such. I dont even think they are good enough reasons, so i thought there must be other reasons to, since every xxxxer seems to say they accept the genocide, and since when was opening bordeers going to help Armenia, the market would be flooded with turkish goods and armenian companies would go tits up
                      But that would improve the condition of life. Since antiquity civilizations have been based on "trade" and the whole concept of the "city" was based on this. You Marxists never figured it out did you?

                      Historical materialism assumes that all history is a class conflict through hindsight. Anyone can look at history through hindsight and construct a formula and say "This is what history is". Hitler did it too, instead of "class" he substituted "race". Either way, ideas have consequences and we saw what Marx' ideas did.
                      Achkerov kute.

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