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  • Re: Muammar Gaddafi and Libyan crisis

    Maybe get some special forces to take out Gadaffi and weaken his military. The rebels are close to toppling him, they just need an extra push.
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    • Re: Muammar Gaddafi and Libyan crisis

      Originally posted by Armanen View Post
      If so, then the US may decide to attack should it calculate that a post Gaddafi government would be better. I hope they do not, it will backfire, and the US really does not need to be in another (muslim) country.
      I don't think it would be bright of the U.S. military and its partners in oil crime to create another Somalia. They might threaten and bully Libya into a corner but there is no single ethnic group they can use against Qadhafi. The people generally don't mind him. The trouble makers are Libyan-Canadians and Libyan-Americans who are playing armchair quarterback while living safely outside of Libya.
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      • Re: Muammar Gaddafi and Libyan crisis

        Originally posted by Davo88 View Post
        I don't think I'm the only one that has noticed the plethora of spelling variations this man's name has: Gaddafi, Qadhafi, Ghadafi, Ghazzafi, Gadafi...
        In arabic it's القذافي it's more like Al-kgazafi, I don't know from where the "d" or the "dd" comes from?

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        • Re: Muammar Gaddafi and Libyan crisis

          Originally posted by Yedtarts View Post
          In arabic it's القذافي it's more like Al-kgazafi, I don't know from where the "d" or the "dd" comes from?
          It's because you can't attempt to say kgazafi without sounding arabic
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          • Re: Muammar Gaddafi and Libyan crisis

            Gadhafi denies Libyan revolt as battle rages

            He said Libya's oilfields and ports are "safe" and "under control," and that the country will replace Western banks and companies by others from China, Russia and Brazil.

            http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...afi-world.html
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            • Re: Muammar Gaddafi and Libyan crisis

              Originally posted by Yedtarts View Post
              I watch Al-aalam and Press TV they are Iranian stations one is in Arabic and one is English, both are showing gruesome pictures of killed people that been shot with heavy artilleries such as aircraft or helicopter machineguns. And both blaming Gaddafi for the crimes.
              Since when have the Iranians gone out of their way to paint Sunni regimes in a good light?

              Gaddafi's forces used Helicopters and anti-aircraft guns. If you ask me the people blown to bits mostly the result of rocket-propelled grenades and Al Jazeera's reports of aerial bombardment seem somewhat exaggerated. However things have gotten badly out of hand and theirs clearly a civil war going on in Libya.

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              • Re: Muammar Gaddafi and Libyan crisis

                Originally posted by retro View Post
                Since when have the Iranians gone out of their way to paint Sunni regimes in a good light?

                Gaddafi's forces used Helicopters and anti-aircraft guns. If you ask me the people blown to bits mostly the result of rocket-propelled grenades and Al Jazeera's reports of aerial bombardment seem somewhat exaggerated. However things have gotten badly out of hand and theirs clearly a civil war going on in Libya.
                I think they are just fueling the tension between the West and Libya. They wouldn't mind preoccupying the U.S. military in a fruitless venture.
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                • Re: Muammar Gaddafi and Libyan crisis

                  KanadaHye

                  Gaddafi is making thinly guarded threats against the West and is mantaining that the Arabs/Al-Qaeda are behind this.


                  Speaking live on state television, Gaddafi again blamed Al-Qaeda for the challenge to his 41-year iron-fisted rule, saying the objective was to control Libya's land and oil and promising to fight to the last man and woman.

                  Addressing "our friends in Europe and the West," he said it is "not at all in their interest to shake the Libyan regime," and that the country could turn to Chinese, Indian, South Korean and Brazilian firms as business partners.

                  In a two-and-a-half hour speech, he denied there had been any peaceful demonstrations since the uprising broke out on February 15 and challenged calls for him to step down, saying he has "no real power."

                  As the United States, Nato and the United Nations consider imposing a no-fly zone on Libya, or even launching air strikes, Gaddafi warned the "battle will be very very long" if there is any intervention.

                  "If the Americans or the West want to enter Libya they must know it will be hell and a bloodbath - worse than Iraq."

                  But without elaborating, he praised Barack Obama, the US president, who has called for him to leave, saying he has an "acceptable policy. He is not a Yankee like a Bush or Clinton; he can avoid a new Iraq or a new Afghanistan."

                  Turning to the unrest, which he blamed on Al-Qaeda "sleeper cells" that had first been activated in the eastern town of Al-Baida and later in nearby Benghazi, he said "there are no peaceful demonstrations in Libya."

                  "If there were why are foreigners fleeing, the embassies closing in Tripoli, (oil company) employees fleeing from the desert?"

                  "These gangs made oil companies afraid, flee and stop production. Oil production is at its lowest."

                  "The conspiracy has become clear," he said, adding the aim was to take control Libyan land and oil.

                  "This is impossible, impossible. We will fight to the end, to the last man, the last woman ... with God's help."

                  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-will-die.html

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                  • Re: Muammar Gaddafi and Libyan crisis

                    I know, that's what's so funny. He's using western tactics against the west. It's ok to blow people to bits as long as you label them terrorists.

                    South Korea already has some major infrastructure/engineering projects in Libya so I don't think they'd like to see that kind of investment go down the drain.


                    South Korean Builders Halt Libya Projects; Shares Slide
                    Last year alone, South Korea won nine contracts worth $2 billion in Libya, making it one of the biggest foreign players outside of the oil market which produces most of the country's wealth.

                    A total of 24 South Korean builders are working in Libya, hiring 22,000 employees including 1,300 Koreans.

                    A foreign ministry official told Reuters the South Korean government was advising its nationals in Libya to leave as soon as possible if their business was not urgent.

                    "This applies to Korean companies as well, but they are reluctant to leave because they have invested so much. This is natural," the official said.

                    South Korea's biggest player in the country, Hyundai Engineering & Construction, last year agreed a $1.4 billion deal to build a power plant in Tripoli.

                    Shares in South Korean builders came under pressure on concerns that protracted protests in Libya could deal a major blow to projects there.

                    Hyundai E&C shares tumbled about 10 percent to its lowest level in almost two months, while Daewoo Engineering & Construction shares fell 8 percent to their lowest level in more than three months.

                    "All of our three construction projects, worth between $400-$530 million each, are on standby to monitor what is happening," said a spokesman for Daewoo Engineering & Construction.

                    Hyundai also said its construction project in Benghazi was halted after attackers looted computers and other assets from its estate over the weekend.
                    http://www.cnbc.com/id/41710853/Sout...s_Shares_Slide
                    Last edited by KanadaHye; 03-02-2011, 08:17 AM.
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                    • Re: Muammar Gaddafi and Libyan crisis

                      Originally posted by retro View Post
                      Since when have the Iranians gone out of their way to paint Sunni regimes in a good light?
                      I would say they've painted Sunni-majority Syria in a good light though it is ruled by Alawites. It's usually the opposite, Sunni countries hate Iran while Iran tries to reach out to them. They fear a strong Iran. But Iran's problems with Ghazafi are about Musa Sadr's assassination .
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