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If you haven't been able to do it, that should be a good hint to you that maybe it can't be done. By the way, that problem is not as trivial as it looks so don't expect a 1 line answer. You have to think it out ... 
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Both of them can be answered. Whether they can be connected is another question. =)Originally posted by anileve Because he was tired of his daughters worship of the flower and decided to releive his ears from the burden.
Seap, I can't get the first 1 one for the life of me. It's impossible to connect them without some kind of intersection. Just give me a hint, can it be done or not?
I think figured out who marries the daughter.... The meddling court jester, right?
Thanks Anileve, you've made a boring rest day at home quite interesting.Last edited by ckBejug; 02-27-2004, 09:24 AM.The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott FitzgeraldComment
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I fixed ckBs solution a bit, since she was tired of taking pictures
. Nice ckBejug, there is a little logician in you I see! Is this what you have Seap?
So the first problem cannot be done? I was thinking in very simple terms I must admit, hoping to cheat the system a little. I figured that the distance between each in a set a,b, c is equal to the set of points in 1,2,3 they form a perfect 360 degrees. Thus if you connect them all in a rectangular shape, in essence they will all be connected to each other. Wouldn't it be wonderful if it was that simple? 
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I agree with no answer for #1- we have to draw nine lines and there is no way to do that, even if you use circles and squares, you end up with only 8 possible lines and the ninth one will always interesect something... right?Originally posted by anileve I fixed ckBs solution a bit, since she was tired of taking pictures. Nice ckBejug, there is a little logician in you I see! Is this what you have Seap?
So the first problem cannot be done? I was thinking in very simple terms I must admit, hoping to cheat the system a little. I figured that the distance between each in a set a,b, c is equal to the set of points in 1,2,3 they form a perfect 360 degrees. Thus if you connect them all in a rectangular shape, in essence they will all be connected to each other. Wouldn't it be wonderful if it was that simple?
As for your answer for #2- the new line you put in intersects one line in two places....
I know who's going to marry the daughter!!!! =) This better be right... (Don't highlight and read it if you don't want to know yet what I think the answer is!)
The King will want the third son to marry his daughter…. Why? Think about it… The oldest son will still have his mirror through which he can see anywhere in the world, and the second son will still have his horse that will take him to anyplace in the world in one day… But the third son, he gave up his father’s gift to him… the apple…. He wont have it anymore because she ate it to get better.. That sacrifice means he gets to marry her….
Right? =)Last edited by ckBejug; 02-27-2004, 09:42 AM.The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott FitzgeraldComment
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That "who will marry the princess" one seems too easy.
cK. I came up with the same thing.Comment
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Ok, smartie pants. Try this one. I thought it was easy too =)Originally posted by dusken That "who will marry the princess" one seems too easy.
cK. I came up with the same thing.
30 men with ladies two
Gathered for a festive do.
Dressed quite formal, black and white,
Yet movement turned to nasty fight.
What's going on?The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott FitzgeraldComment
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Yup ... the bottom right line segment is intersected twice.Originally posted by ckBejug As for your answer for #2- the new line you put in intersects one line in two places....
Don't highlight the reply below ... EVER: ... and the little line segment in the middle (to the left) is still untouched.
The problem said the apple will never rot. Once the princess is "done" with it, it should still be good as new with a bit of cleaning. So the third guy is still ok.Originally posted by ckBejug
The King will want the third son to marry his daughter…. Why? Think about it… The oldest son will still have his mirror through which he can see anywhere in the world, and the second son will still have his horse that will take him to anyplace in the world in one day… But the third son, he gave up his father’s gift to him… the apple…. He wont have it anymore because she ate it to get better.. That sacrifice means he gets to marry her….Right? =)
ok sorry for this but that's sometimes how you have to read the riddles.
Last edited by Sip; 02-27-2004, 09:53 AM.this post = teh win.Comment
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I'm wondering if problem #1 can be solved with adding an extra point x in the center, which will connect all of the points without intersection of the lines? Can you add a variable, or are we restricted? I know I am reaching here...Originally posted by ckBejug I agree with no answer for #1- we have to draw nine lines and there is no way to do that, even if you use circles and squares, you end up with only 8 possible lines and the ninth one will always interesect something... right?
As for your answer for #2- the new line you put in intersects one line in two places....
I know who's going to marry the daughter!!!! =) This better be right... (Don't highlight and read it if you don't want to know yet what I think the answer is!)
The King will want the third son to marry his daughter…. Why? Think about it… The oldest son will still have his mirror through which he can see anywhere in the world, and the second son will still have his horse that will take him to anyplace in the world in one day… But the third son, he gave up his father’s gift to him… the apple…. He wont have it anymore because she ate it to get better.. That sacrifice means he gets to marry her….
Right? =)
ckBejug, you are absolutely right.Comment
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I know the apple will never ROT. The thing is, she didn't just hold on to the apple. She ATE it. The riddle never says the apple will regenerate once it's been eaten. Nooope. It will just never get rotten. Once it's eaten up, it's eaten up and it can't be used again.... I think I'm right.Originally posted by Seapahn Yup ... the bottom right line segment is intersected twice.
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The problem said the apple will never rot. Once the princess is "done" with it, it should still be good as new with a bit of cleaning. So the third guy is still ok. ok sorry for this but that's sometimes how you have to read the riddles.
The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott FitzgeraldComment
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Hehe, anileve you're so cute with your point variables. I called it quits... It can't be done!!Originally posted by anileve I'm wondering if problem #1 can be solved with adding an extra point x in the center, which will connect all of the points without intersection of the lines? Can you add a variable, or are we restricted? I know I am reaching here...
ckBejug, you are absolutely right.The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott FitzgeraldComment
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