Originally posted by Anonymouse
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Hey,
A few things:
I think my anthropology teacher put it best by saying evolution is a fact AND a theory. It is obvious evolution is happening, you can look at nearly any species and seen how they have evolved (famous darwins finches as you all know), yet it is not fully known how it happens. It is believed to happen through mutation, natural selection, gene drift, and gene flow, but what actually triggers the change remains a mystery, hence the theory of it.
About the religion thing, I personally believe that religion and evolution coincide quite nicely, there are little things contradictory about it. I have heard even the pope advocates the study of evolution
-Dave
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Originally posted by loseyournameA baby about it? Again, all I ask is intellectual honesty. Display the slightest bit of integrity here Mousy. Evolutionary theory does not propose macromutations as a mechanism, so quit criticizing the fact that macromutations have not been observed. Just be honest with us. It isn't that hard.Achkerov kute.
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Originally posted by loseyournameCome on, man, I thought you were smarter than that. The origin of the first living cell does not fall under the auspices of evolutionary theory. There are several hypotheses regarding abiogenesis. None has enough evidential support to come anywhere near being called a theory.
Alright, I'll let you two get back to clashing, since you guys seem more hell bent on destroying the TRIVIAL details about each other's arguments, as opposed to having a true, general discussion.
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Come on, man. How do I seem to be making any attempt at ruling out the possibility of an intelligent creator? Did you even look at any of those links or essays I posted that attempt to reconcile creationism with evolutionary theory? All I'm trying to establish is that evolution is the means by which the first living cells (how they came into existence, I have no idea) eventually gave rise to the diversity of forms we see today, including ourselves.
To Anonymouse: Evolutionary theory does not propose that macromutations are responsible for speciation events. It is the accumulation of small mutations. Macromutations are almost impossible to even be expressed in a reproducible form, as most will be rejected in the embryonic stage. The small mutations, resulting in variation within a species have been observed. Changes from one species to another have been observed. I ask again what more do you want to see?
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Originally posted by loseyournameTo Anonymouse: Evolutionary theory does not propose that macromutations are responsible for speciation events. It is the accumulation of small mutations. Macromutations are almost impossible to even be expressed in a reproducible form, as most will be rejected in the embryonic stage. The small mutations, resulting in variation within a species have been observed. Changes from one species to another have been observed. I ask again what more do you want to see?Achkerov kute.
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Confirmed speciation events? My reply to it is the same as before. Within species variation, is within species variation. If you are insinuating that this leads to changes of one species into a totally different new one, then you are displaying no less faith than a creationist is in God.Achkerov kute.
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