Evolution and Religion

[hyebruin]

someone needs to bring a camera on the 20th of june (or whenever you guys are gonna meet) to capture mouse and lose hugging and making up!! haha!!!! tooo bad i won't be there to see it ....

[loseyourname]

Posting an article with such glaring lies in it is no better than lying yourself. Especially when I show you, point by point, exactly why the article is wrong, and you don't seem to comprehend any of it. I'd like to think you're smarter than that, and you're just obstinate, but I'm starting to have my doubts. I'm starting to think you really are just an idiot and none of this will ever get through to you. This isn't even about evolution any more. I could care less whether or not you believe it. I just care that you are honest in these threads, and that you cut and paste from honest sources, and if something you post is shown to be wrong, you will say "okay, fine" and move on. It's not like the fact that hemoglobin and chlorophyll being nothing like each other proves evolution correct. It's hardly relevant at all. It would just be nice if you acknowledged that you made a mistake. I know you won't, but still.

Anyway, I'm not really all that concerned with having the last word, because I know I won't. I'm a little more realistic than that.

[Anonymouse]

Posting an article with such glaring lies in it is no better than lying yourself. Especially when I show you, point by point, exactly why the article is wrong, and you don't seem to comprehend any of it. I'd like to think you're smarter than that, and you're just obstinate, but I'm starting to have my doubts. I'm starting to think you really are just an idiot and none of this will ever get through to you. This isn't even about evolution any more. I could care less whether or not you believe it. I just care that you are honest in these threads, and that you cut and paste from honest sources, and if something you post is shown to be wrong, you will say "okay, fine" and move on. It's not like the fact that hemoglobin and chlorophyll being nothing like each other proves evolution correct. It's hardly relevant at all. It would just be nice if you acknowledged that you made a mistake. I know you won't, but still.

Anyway, I'm not really all that concerned with having the last word, because I know I won't. I'm a little more realistic than that.

Perhaps if you read the entire articles, and remained in context, things would make more sense, but like I said, when someone is desperate to discredit the other side, anything will qualify, even cherry picking statements. And now in order to redeem himself as an honest candidate in the discussion, he plays the integrity. Really, it's only an internet forum, have a beer.

[loseyourname]

Dude, you're not even posting anything meaningful. I read the entire article and I discredited the entire article. Like I said, that isn't even the point. It would just be nice if you'd admit that you made a mistake. The comment you made about hemoglobin and chlorophyll wasn't even related to that article. I guess you don't remember.

[Anonymouse]

He says I'm not posting anything meaningful. That's funny coming from the guy who's been posting nothing but desperate non-issues for the past page. And you're right, the hemoglobin and chlorophyll part was not related, which makes me wonder why you kept drilling at it. Loser, you really need to work on your discussion skills, because if you want to smear me, you will have to do better.

[loseyourname]

Is everything a fight for you? I'm not smearing you. I just really, really want to you to admit that you made a mistake. Is it that difficult for you to do? I promise I will immediately move on. You just have to show the slightest shred of integrity. I assure you it does no damage to your argument. But I will probably fall out of my chair in shock if you just admit that you were wrong.

[Anonymouse]

Loser, how can I admit I made a mistake when I did not? You really have a hang up with this don't you? You want me to admit something that doesn't exist. You want to say I lied, when I did not. After you manipulated text to make it seem that I said things which I did not, of corse you will go on to believe I am wrong. Well loser, what is your hang up with this?

[loseyourname]

I quoted you exactly. I want you to admit that you said hemoglobin and chlorophyll were the same molecule, aside from the placement of one iron atom. That is not true. That is all I want you to admit. You know you posted that, and it was wrong. I know you posted that, and it was wrong. Just admit to it. It isn't that big of a deal. I assure you, it is perfectly human to be wrong every now and then.

[Anonymouse]

I quoted you exactly. I want you to admit that you said hemoglobin and chlorophyll were the same molecule, aside from the placement of one iron atom. That is not true. That is all I want you to admit. You know you posted that, and it was wrong. I know you posted that, and it was wrong. Just admit to it. It isn't that big of a deal. I assure you, it is perfectly human to be wrong every now and then.

You quoted me out of context, and I already clarified the hemoglobin and chlorophyll issue by the author in the article were different issues, nor was the word "same" ever used. Yet more text manipulation. Thus you have no case.

[loseyourname]

"Chlorophyll in plants and human hemoglobin differ in chemical makeup by one molecule. The difference being one magnesium molecule exchanged for one iron molecule."

Again, these are your exact words. Go back and see for yourself. You did not take this statement from the article. I have no idea where you took it from, but it is incorrect. All you have to do is admit that you were incorrect. Why is this so hard for you?