Abortion

[sleuth]

*massages his temples*

And I don't see what's so difficult about understanding what I said. Jesus Christ, does everyone have to twist words around, or put words in people's mouths on this board? Or maybe everyone has to be spoon fed the meaning of everything I say, because even the obvious isn't obvious enough. I never put the entire blame on the woman, nor did I imply it. In fact, I made that clear in the post you quoted from in the part you blatantly avoided to highlight. As I said, no SH*T it takes 2 to make a baby. That's not the point, or atleast my point. I never claimed otherwise, thus why I said her post made no sense. She is attacking an arguement I never made.

Let's take a step back, since, if you don't clearly state something in a post on this board, you automatically assume that I believe in the direct opposite. Here, I'll spell out my stance for you:

Men ARE pigs. The majority of men, regardless of how stuck up and picky they act in selecting someone to screw, will f*ck ANYthing with a wet hole if allowed to!! OK?? Happy now??

That being said, let's move on to the point I was trying to make, which never had anything to do with the above paragraph. Only the woman can get pregnant, and bare the child. Do you not think that if she is not using any contraceptives herself, she should not have intercourse with a guy who isn't wearing a condom? If he refuses to put on a rubber, shouldn't she tell him to give himself a hand tonight? If women are so conscious to what horny perverted pigs guys are, why doesn't she just say no when the time arrives? She's going into this fully aware of the possible consequences, and yet, she chooses to do it anyway. That's ALL I was holding the woman responsible for. Are you honestly failing to follow this logic? It may take 2 to create life, and the man should burn in f*cking hell for aiding in a pregnancy that leads to abortion, but it's the woman who is the..."gatekeeper" so to speak. Thus, why I said the decision (to allow unprotected sex) ultimately comes down to her. All I guy can do is beg and plea for it. It's the woman that has to say "hmmmm....ok, you can f*ck me with no condom while I'm not on the pill, knowing full well there's a good chance it may cause an unwanted pregnancy".

Guys can u forget about wh88s for a sake of god? plz

Don'e even bring them here... i totally agree

I was talking about decent and normal families,and i am pretty sure flames too.
NOW u can do what u want with all that sl88ts...for all i care...

[hyebruin]

Ahh yes yes yes blame men. In order to understand where I am coming from, you have to understand that men and women are different, mentally, spiritually, biologically, emotionally, physically, in every way. But when you accept the modern feministic paradigm of "anything goes", of course you will not understand me. I have nothing more to say to any of the females on this forum. I rest my case.

hellllo?? am i blaming anyone? YOU? men? wtf??? i'm just saying..hey, your mask is unveiling! and we get to see the real you, the hateful you...share the hate, like YOU would know what love and caring is all about...

[angelik22]

one opinion... responsibility is on both-men and women--
for the man- it's when he makes sure the woman wants to do it- and he is "safe" with it--depending on what the woman "wants"
for the woman its also being responsible by saying they want to have sex or not and useing some sort of contraception--

since both are in the act... both have some sort of responsibility... what i cannot understand is when some women blame men for getting pergnant-- if u didnt want to do it- you didnt have to-- unlses its rape- then thats another case--

[angelik22]

Guys can u forget about wh88s for a sake of god? plz

Don'e even bring them here... i totally agree

I was talking about decent and normal families,and i am pretty sure flames too.
NOW u can do what u want with all that sl88ts...for all i care...

agreed!! lol

[hyebruin]

one opinion... responsibility is on both-men and women--
for the man- it's when he makes sure the woman wants to do it- and he is "safe" with it--depending on what the woman "wants"
for the woman its also being responsible by saying they want to have sex or not and useing some sort of contraception--

since both are in the act... both have some sort of responsibility... what i cannot understand is when some women blame men for getting pergnant-- if u didnt want to do it- you didnt have to-- unlses its rape- then thats another case--

yes dear, but some feel like men are totally off the hook as far as responsibility! and that is wrong! i agree with you! BOTH are responsible, just cuz a guy has no feelings for whoever he screws with makes NO difference! it's not about her! it's about the kid! HIS kid!! what is so hard to understand about that??

[Anonymouse]

hellllo?? am i blaming anyone? YOU? men? wtf??? i'm just saying..hey, your mask is unveiling! and we get to see the real you, the hateful you...share the hate, like YOU would know what love and caring is all about...

Oh believe me, I got much more love and care that any of you would even know a third about. However, that is not the issue. I am only displaying emotions, no different than what you display. You telling me I am showing "hatred of women" is not different than you showing constantly your hatred of men. Stop using the tired labels of "hatred". There is an issue here more deep and pressing than who is showing "hatred". Obviously, I do not deny I show hatred, not toward women, but toward easy girls whom I distrust. Get it right.

[gevo]

I hate this thread and am gonna kep my mouth shut about abortion and this sex business which is soo liberalized and accepted... and we even have "christians" in here """hyejinx""" saying its ok to have casual sex.. riiighhhtt.. anywho..

Mouse, you cant be serious that you beleive it is only the females fault for having sex and it is only the females fault for having to deal with abortion.. the act of sex isnt the quesion here. i think that the mentality that goes with "ill phuck you anyways im a guy its not my fault, you watch out for yourself"... is very disturbed.. deeply disturbed!!!.. it is in itself a hypocrytical statement and hearing this from anyone shows me how damaged their mentality really is..
I have a very narrow view on this issue and i will not say what i think of thos girls who open themselves to sex.. and same goes for guys... i am not one sided about this.

[hyebruin]

ha! i'm not buying that...you're just distrustful of all women! i've met your kind before! i know how it goes...why you taking all your hate/anger over that girl onto the women on this forum? u need help! at least when i "hate" like you say...i don't go around attacking people here personally! and try to make sure if there is a misunderstanding i clear it up! ..but someone who likes to "phuck around and then leave" as you do could care less who thinks what...i pray to not meet more hateful men like you...pray to god to keep your kind faaar faaaar faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from me...

[Anonymouse]

I hate this thread and am gonna kep my mouth shut about abortion and this sex business which is soo liberalized and accepted... and we even have "christians" in here """hyejinx""" saying its ok to have casual sex.. riiighhhtt.. anywho..

Mouse, you cant be serious that you beleive it is only the females fault for having sex and it is only the females fault for having to deal with abortion.. the act of sex isnt the quesion here. i think that the mentality that goes with "ill phuck you anyways im a guy its not my fault, you watch out for yourself"... is very disturbed.. deeply disturbed!!!.. it is in itself a hypocrytical statement and hearing this from anyone shows me how damaged their mentality really is..
I have a very narrow view on this issue and i will not say what i think of thos girls who open themselves to sex.. and same goes for guys... i am not one sided about this.

I don't disagree with you about casual sex. I think both men and women can control themselves. That is not the issue. In fact I have repeatedly stated that humans have reason which can and does elevate them beyond mere animalistic wants and passions. That wasn't the issue. Things were said but not meant in the heat of the moment, however, that does not change my position that women can blame men for their choices. I'm sorry I guess I've just had a different road in life's schooling to be taking such a draconian stance.

If a girl opens her legs, guys will come, a small deviation from "if you build it they will come". That is not the point. If a girl opens her legs, I might refuse to take up their offer, Joe might refuse, but Bob won't. I'm saying guys are dogs and girls always state this and know this, about how 'guys are dogs' and they have 'ego issues', yet they continuously open themselves up to this shyt. If you don't like it, fine, do not open your legs. You must understand that it is not women who chase men, in this world it is men who chase women, and it is based on mans ability in how good he is chasing to get the woman. So when women do not open, there are men that rape, showing that yes, it is men that want it, and women are the ones that will make the last decision of who gets what. That is why I say, women have to stop blaming men. I don't care who it is, on this issue you are all dead off. It is the womans fault for allowing pregnancies to come about in the first place which then leads to abortions. Sure it takes a male sperm, but hey, no one forced her. Obviously if there was rape, than I would agree with you, but 99% of the time, it is not rape, it is consentual. Put the blame where it ought to be.

[Anonymouse]

ha! i'm not buying that...you're just distrustful of all women! i've met your kind before! i know how it goes...why you taking all your hate/anger over that girl onto the women on this forum? u need help! at least when i "hate" like you say...i don't go around attacking people here personally! and try to make sure if there is a misunderstanding i clear it up! ..but someone who likes to "phuck around and then leave" as you do could care less who thinks what...i pray to not meet more hateful men like you...pray to god to keep your kind faaar faaaar faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from me...

Oh and I am to guess you've met every man? I did not take my anger onto women on this forum. It just so happened that women on this forum tried to blame men as usual, and I have been in a situation similar to that and yes it got me passionate because it hit me personally, and you think youre the only victim and the only one who suffers under "evil men" when I had to deal with a miserable ho bag who couldn't keep her legs closed. Just because we don't talk about it or constantly show it and bich and moan about it, like you show your hatred or disgust with men, doesn't mean some of us haven't tasted the bichy woman. Maybe if you stopped constantly saying how women are always victims, you would take the time to understand it, but oh who am I to say that right? Women are the perennial victims of evil chauvinist males. Yes yes, that is the way it goes. Women can do no wrongs. Women never make mistakes. In fact when two people have sex, it is the mans fault because he used his psychic powers to overpower the innocent helpless female and overcome her with his chauvinist psychic powers into convincing her to have sex and later get pregnant to have an abortion. They are all innocent. It is those evil hateful men you have to watch out for. Yes yes, those hateful men.