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  • #1

    Philosophy

    Not many people frequent the Intellectual Lounge. It has sort of occupied a distant place of vacuousness. Occasionally a post or two is made and one thread usually hovers for a long time. Aside from Ara Baliozian, I'm probably the only other person who frequents this as much as he does, but everyone else seems drawn away from here, perhaps it's easier to just engage in a General Talk discussion. Now on to the point. I started a philosophy thread in which different philosophies can be discussed, be they personal or otherwise.

    Philosophy, as defined, is the rational investigation of questions about existence and knowledge and ethics. It is not only personal it is societal. It doesn't just affect us as individuals, and attunement but also other people. Different philosophies come out of different peoples' and cultures, and their way of looking and interpreting the world and existence. Lastly, philosophy is the guide by which we conduct human action since all laws, at their root have a philosophic basis, whether that law is just or not, moral or not. In other words, we do not create laws, as someone once said ( whom I can't remember ) but we only discover them. The second law of thermodynamics, for example, is not something some human being created and then ran around trying to enforce. Human beings can create and produce only to the extent they discover and recognize such laws. Don't everyone post at once.
    Achkerov kute.
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    Do ya think ya made a broad enough topic? What do you want discussed exactly?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by loseyourname
      Do ya think ya made a broad enough topic? What do you want discussed exactly?
      ...thread in which different philosophies can be discussed...
      OK, here's a topic: Happiness. I think this is a philosophical topic. If not, excuse my rambling.

      Well, first of all, this just came to mind because I got into a discussion about it at school. I said that a perosn will always find something that he does not have, even if it seems that he has "everything." She went off on saying how a human being can be good and not want anything else and that a person can be their happiest. I said that just because a person wants something, does not make him/her bad. Anyways...

      Can a person be their happiest? I mean, so happy and fulfilled that they will not need anything or anyone else? Is there even such a thing? Supposedly a person has everything he/she wants, but is that enough to stop this person from getting new wants? Can a person be fully satisfied? I say, No. Does not matter how much the person has, he will always want something else. Sure, he's happy about something that he gets at one point, but he later gets used to it and is not as happy. I mean, happiness is a phase. Reminds me of this. "Man is a creature that can get used to anything and I thik that is the best definitin of him!" - Fyodor Dostoyevski
      I see...

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      • #4
        The Buddhist philosophy states that suffering comes from desires.

        And I say that you should only be content w/ what you have, not what you can get.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by gaucho
          yes I agree with lose.
          although it evokes interest, this thread is sort of like an info-thread. you read it, and it makes some points...but it doesn't ask for an opinion. I think a thread, specially in the intellectual lounge should be an argument. this clearly isn't.

          oh and who is this arabaliozian guy you ask? he's the guy who has a statue of Mel Gibson in his room and he worships him every day cuz MelGib said he MIGHT be making a movie about the armenian genocide. HA!
          let me tell you something.
          not posting in the intellectual lounge doesn't mean we don't visit it often. it merely suggests that it isn't "intellectual" enough or sufficiently interesting for some of us who don't like starting threads every hour.
          It's a general thread about Philosophy in which you can discuss anything you want, be it clarifying a certain philosophical point, or arguing about differing philosophies. If you are going to sit there and whine about it, you aren't offering much other than a worthless post. If you don't feel like there is nothing 'intellectual' here then perhaps you shouldn't bother reading this forum. That is all.
          Last edited by Siggie; 11-16-2004, 04:17 PM.
          Achkerov kute.

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          • #6
            I love philosophy. My favorite philosophy is Zen. Because it doesnt mean anything. Zen could be anything. there's no way to talk about it. And reading Zen stories are so fun because they dont make sense. Here's one... A monk one day walked up to the main Zen monk and told him he had travelled first from one monastery to the next until he had arrived at this one. Seeking the meaning of Zen. Now he asked him the meaning of Zen. The head monk asked, "Have you eaten your supper yet?" "Yes" said the monk. "Then go wash your bowl." And the monk attained enlightenment. That's such a cool story, I'm sure some of you have heard it since that's a very common one.

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            • #7
              Thai-Samurai, let me guess. You read Siddhartha right? :-)
              I see...

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              • #8
                i;ve read all of herman hesses books.

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                • #9
                  the core of everything i say is Carl Jung.

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                  • #10
                    Carl Jung? He's a swiss psychologist. And Zen stemmed from Buddhism and Taoism, it's originally chinese but the Japanese adopted it very strongly. Zen-Buddhism, is it's own school in many ways. Known as the School of Sudden Enlightenment.

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