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Turkey manages to displace 378,000 ethnic minorites

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  • #21
    Originally posted by Thai-Samurai
    So pretty much you look at the Genocide issue logically, but then when we say the reasons why we bring up the Genocide issue you get angry and say we don't have the power to make you change. We just want you to admit what you did. And give us some of our old land back with our old churches on it. Like Ani and Van.

    "So instead of trying to insult a person like me who is looking for a solution on your side, be a mature person, face with the reality and contribute for a solution, not for stupid revenge dreams."

    Here's a good solution. Admit what you did, instead of saying you won't because we can't make you, and I'm sure we can normalize relations.

    "face with the reality" you say, I'm facing it. Turkey should face it.
    I am here to understand what you claim, what is the story seen from your side. And I have an advice if you regard. "Admit genocide, give us land" doesn't help you at your fight but show you bad.
    "To admit genocide" is not that much simple issue as I stated above. We must talk mutually to understand each other. And then if there is a genocide Turks shall admit for sure. This argument between Turks and Armenians are the fight of blinds in this way. Instead of politizising the issue we must able to communicate to find a solution.
    Demanding land is the hardest part to do. I don't think that it is a serious option. Because there are people living there now. And there were Turks living those lands at 1914, too. You may have historical monuments, villages, etc. but this doesn't mean that those lands were totally yours. Armenians were even not a majority at eastern anatolia. I respect your demand of returning to your cities, villages (if you have a desire so) But exiling Turks and settling Armenians, giving those lands are just impossible, unlogical and unjustice. Turks have people settles at eastern anatolia, Turks have monuments dated 1000 years ago at those lands. This is our common home, not only yours. The solution should be alowing Armenians to come their homes, maybe with a compensation. I honestly don't find another solution. If you have a LOGİCAL one, please state.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by nairi
      You're the one interpreting this as revenge. I spoke of justice, something, you, with your highness, do not seem to understand yet.

      There is nothing to discuss. We have already been over it all. Turkey either recognizes its own history and lives as a dignified nation, or continues in its nationalistically fascist lies and remains a retarted nation. You choose.

      As for Armenia, don't you worry. Time will tell who will survive and who won't.
      yes, there is nothing to discuss with you since you are a child.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by nairi
        You're the one interpreting this as revenge. I spoke of justice, something, you, with your highness, do not seem to understand yet.
        nairi, I appreciate your sense of humor! What "highness?" How can the word "highness" occurs to you when addressing lower forms of morality and intelligence? Those Central Asian Bazaar Crooks have been shamelessly begging for help and money for over a century now. In return, assuming the role of watchdogs, the role of professional criminals of the West. For the last four decades, they've been shamelessly begging for EU membership, despite the many rejections. The word is "yusuz." not "highness" would be more appropriate. I understand that you have used the word with sarcasm; but, please have some respect for virtues and human decency! Thanks.




        Originally posted by nairi
        Turkey either recognizes its own history and lives as a dignified nation, or continues in its nationalistically fascist lies and remains a retarted nation.
        The same sense humor! *urks as a dignified nation!!!! What a contradictio in adjecto! LOL! Thank you for the joke! The day Jurks will become a dignified nation, they will cease to be *urks.



        I'm curious, what will be your next joke?


        Note: I have chosen to auto censor the words "*urk" or "*urkish" because it is commonly perceived as unpleasant and offending, evokes unpleasant emotions and imagery and is pregnant with immoral and evil connotations!
        What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by karakitap
          Yes, govenrment displaced some Kurdish citizens by evaquating the villages. We protested those policies in the strests, we protested a lot of things in Turkey. That's why Turkey became more democratic state comparing to 1992-93.
          The policy of forced evacuation of villages continued long after 1992-93, and probably reached its height in the mid to late 1990s.
          Plenipotentiary meow!

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          • #25
            Originally posted by bell-the-cat
            The policy of forced evacuation of villages continued long after 1992-93, and probably reached its height in the mid to late 1990s.
            No it is not.

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            • #26
              Shan dzak, the genocide has been proven time and time again. If you're too blind to see the results, don't blame the rest of us who have a very fine sight. Now get lost.

              Siamanto, as much as you would like me to be, I'm not a racist.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Siamanto
                nairi, I appreciate your sense of humor! What "highness?" How can the word "highness" occurs to you when addressing lower forms of morality and intelligence? Those Central Asian Bazaar Crooks have been shamelessly begging for help and money for over a century now. In return, assuming the role of watchdogs, the role of professional criminals of the West. For the last four decades, they've been shamelessly begging for EU membership, despite the many rejections. The word is "yusuz." not "highness" would be more appropriate. I understand that you have used the word with sarcasm; but, please have some respect for virtues and human decency! Thanks.





                The same sense humor! *urks as a dignified nation!!!! What a contradictio in adjecto! LOL! Thank you for the joke! The day Jurks will become a dignified nation, they will cease to be *urks.



                I'm curious, what will be your next joke?


                Note: I have chosen to auto censor the words "*urk" or "*urkish" because it is commonly perceived as unpleasant and offending, evokes unpleasant emotions and imagery and is pregnant with immoral and evil connotations!
                your stupid hatred and racism is boring.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by karakitap
                  your stupid hatred and racism is boring.
                  How about your so called "thinking?????" LOL!

                  "The dogs bark, the caravan continues its journey."
                  ("Les chiens aboient, la caravane passe")

                  And the little boy waves good bye from within the cabriolet as the caravan continues its journey!
                  *He's thinking: hopefully we'll never hear his annoyingly nasal voice again. Hopefully we'll never see his ugly face again.*
                  Last edited by Siamanto; 06-26-2005, 01:27 PM.
                  What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by nairi
                    Siamanto, as much as you would like me to be, I'm not a racist.
                    nairi,
                    Since when stating the facts and calling a cat a cat is a sign of racism? Are you insinuating that calling a crook "crook" and an imbecile "imbecile" is an act of racism?
                    Did Political Correctness - the latest incarnation of blind folds - emprisoned your mind and dulled your common sense and judgement to the point of shuting you up?
                    What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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                    • #30
                      Will people please stop calling me PC and a tree-hugger when I say that I know a number of Turks personally who are more humane and civilized than the average leather-jacketed, cross-wearing, wannabe maffioso Armenian in Glendale?? Yes, I do believe that Turkey may become civilized, even more so than corrupt, maffia-run Armenia, after it recognizes the genocide. Got a problem with that? Bite me.

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