Racism - Is it wrong?

[One-Way]

Re: Stereotypes -- What would you do?

Says everybody.

[Siggie]

Re: Stereotypes -- What would you do?

Vice versa, Blacks are the most physically built. That's why they excel in almost every sport. The myth of the Aryan Super Race hitler tried to uphold failed during the Olympics held in Germany when a US black athlete called Jesse Owens won 4 gold medals.

That's hilarious. Do they ski, skate, play hockey, gymnastics? No! They play the sports that are big in the countries they live in. In the US...the ones that will make them money! In poor countries...the only ones they can afford to train for, running.

[TJ]

Re: Stereotypes -- What would you do?

Okay Mr. Man, are we to understand that you advocate racism? Do you see it as a good thing?

Nevermind:
"Racism is good for the economy." --Anonymouse

Care to explain?

...slavery?

[Sip]

Re: Racism - Is it wrong?

As the famous saying goes, "I am not racist; I hate everyone equally."

[Sip]

Re: Stereotypes -- What would you do?

...the only ones they can afford to train for, running.

[Siggie]

Re: Stereotypes -- What would you do?

C'mon...think Kenya.

[Siggie]

Re: Stereotypes -- What would you do?

...slavery?

Perhaps, but wouldn't that be the case regardless of whether it was based on race? How would you feel about it then?

I think it's more an ethical question than economical.

[karoaper]

Re: Stereotypes -- What would you do?

In my definition of racism, it is an irrational and utterly baseless feeling of animosity/distrust/hatred towards someone on the grounds of onlyrace. Moreover, learned feelings of distrust and even hatred towards a large group of people (even if that group constitutes a separate race) that is based on experienced hardship and suffering due to this group is not racism. This is important. For example Armenians,Greeks, etc. are more than justified in feeling deep distrust and hatred towards turks; native Americans and blacks are more than justified in being weary of white Americans; Arabs are more than justified in feeling deep animosity towards Israelis and xxxs in general. That in my opinion is not racism.

On the other hand, hatred, distrust, discrimination that one feels towards another person simply because their race or their culture is foreign and different is purely moronic. It's no coincidence that so many racists are ignorant redneck morons. So for example if I walk down a street and see a black person or a hispanic person and I get an uneasy feeling, that is racism and it's stupid as all hell. On the other hand, if I walk down the street in the ghetto and see a group of hoodlums, who may all be black, an uneasy feeling is all but natural. This feeling is due to a natural understanding that hoodlums in the ghetto can and do get very violent with no provocation.

So, yes racism is wrong.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Stereotypes -- What would you do?

Okay Mr. Man, are we to understand that you advocate racism? Do you see it as a good thing?

Nevermind:
"Racism is good for the economy." --Anonymouse

Care to explain?

Okay Mr. Man, are we to understand that you will answer my point? You just shifted the burden here, when I asked how racism is somehow "bad". This then leads further to the question of what one means when using that all-pervasive and all-encompassing smear label called "racism". Even then, I will not wait, and I will elaborate.

The word itself is very loaded, and so when used to describe someone, it is often used for pejorative purposes, more than any other word. The next word that perhaps comes in with close tie, or in fact is the champion, is probably "anti-Semite". It's the medieval equivalent of identifying people as lepers and throwing them into the leper colony. The same people who believe "we are all equal", and chant slogans of how there is "no such thing as race", never hesitate to use this word as a smear label. In their haste they do not realize that by agreeing to use this word, they are ipso facto agreeing that there is such a thing called race, and thereby contradicting themselves. I am not stating that you somehow did this, but that this is commonly done on more than one occasion by the tolerance police.

As far as being good for the economy, that is true. Affirmitive action, quotas, "diversity training", and all the legal costs that business and companies face because of litigations due to Civil Rights legislation and other "non-discrimination" nonsense drives up costs and is an added burden to companies. This is one of the many interventionist and regulatory reasons of why outsourcing occurs. So when companies outsource to cheaper places where they wont face any of these added burdens, these same people complain about how jobs are being taken from Americans. It seems the only people Americans have to blame about this are themselves.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Stereotypes -- What would you do?

In my definition of racism, it is an irrational and utterly baseless feeling of animosity/distrust/hatred towards someone on the grounds of onlyrace. Moreover, learned feelings of distrust and even hatred towards a large group of people (even if that group constitutes a separate race) that is based on experienced hardship and suffering due to this group is not racism. This is important. For example Armenians,Greeks, etc. are more than justified in feeling deep distrust and hatred towards turks; native Americans and blacks are more than justified in being weary of white Americans; Arabs are more than justified in feeling deep animosity towards Israelis and xxxs in general. That in my opinion is not racism.

On the other hand, hatred, distrust, discrimination that one feels towards another person simply because their race or their culture is foreign and different is purely moronic. It's no coincidence that so many racists are ignorant redneck morons. So for example if I walk down a street and see a black person or a hispanic person and I get an uneasy feeling, that is racism and it's stupid as all hell. On the other hand, if I walk down the street in the ghetto and see a group of hoodlums, who may all be black, an uneasy feeling is all but natural. This feeling is due to a natural understanding that hoodlums in the ghetto can and do get very violent with no provocation.

So, yes racism is wrong.

First of all, I don't agree of how you made things very vague so as to allow some racism, yet at the end you claim a moral absolute of how racism is wrong. If you claim a moral absolute that somehow racism is wrong, then it is always wrong, no matter the case. Armenians, Greeks, blacks, etc., are not justified in hating Turks, whites, etc. Otherwise it seems contradictory.

One one hand you give a bunch of people an excuse and a reason to hate other people, and then you concluded from that that somehow racism is wrong.