Any nihilists in the house?

[parthiapride]

Just wondering.

[jgk3]

Re: Any nihilists in the house?

nihilism has a significant part in my perception of the human state, so I guess yes?

[parthiapride]

Re: Any nihilists in the house?

Yes me too.

The impulse to destroy, which is sometimes associated with nihilism, is obviously an anarchistic concept.

I believe man will destroy himself without my contribution.

Hopefully within my lifetime...

[Anonymouse]

Re: Any nihilists in the house?

Nihilism is good only to a certain point, so long as it provides the creative Will to Power of new values, as Nietzsche proclaimed.

In and of itself, it is worthless and harmful to the society that ultimately considers it the endpoint.

[jgk3]

Re: Any nihilists in the house?

Hmmm, come to think of it, I can't say I'm a nihilist... Sometimes my logic has similarities with its philosophy (for example, towards science and religion), but my emotions are actual more existancial than anything. I have no impulse to destroy. Although I see the lack of significance of everything around me, if I were a nihilist, I'd take that to the next level, I'd be sick to the stomach by everything around me.

[jgk3]

Re: Any nihilists in the house?

yeah, like Anonymouse said, it's good to a certain point. During my Nihilistic phase, I used it to throw up all the crap that I was grown on in a rather efficient way, but now, as I said, I'm more at the existencialist's position.

[TomServo]

Re: Any nihilists in the house?

Is there a difference?

Both existentialism and nihilism make me sad.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Any nihilists in the house?

yeah, like Anonymouse said, it's good to a certain point. During my Nihilistic phase, I used it to throw up all the crap that I was grown on in a rather efficient way, but now, as I said, I'm more at the existencialist's position.

Many people have labeled Nietzsche as a nihilist, but I have to side with many scholars including the foremost scholar on Nietzsche, Walter Kaufman. While Nietzsche is describing nihilism, there is a difference between advocating that and describing it. Furthermore, because nihilism means there are no values, that is not what Nietzsche argued. He did not argue that there are no values, instead to break values and to create new ones, and that there are many values and perspectives.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Any nihilists in the house?

Is there a difference?

Both existentialism and nihilism make me sad.

The difference is that in nihilism values and meaning do not exist. In existentialism, values and meaning exist through the subjective choice of the individual.

[jgk3]

Re: Any nihilists in the house?

Many people have labeled Nietzsche as a nihilist, but I have to side with many scholars including the foremost scholar on Nietzsche, Walter Kaufman. While Nietzsche is describing nihilism, there is a difference between advocating that and describing it. Furthermore, because nihilism means there are no values, that is not what Nietzsche argued. He did not argue that there are no values, instead to break values and to create new ones, and that there are many values and perspectives.

This makes sense, because I have trouble associating those extremist nihilist values with Neitzsche... He sounded so much better than that because he knew it doesn't help the human state when you destroy all its values and replace them with nothing. It's so easy to doubt the existance of everything, but after I did this long enough, I felt like I was dying, like my body wasn't good enough to contain my mind that was taking self-destructive measures to attain thought processes that humans weren't given the ability to maintain. I must've been going mad. Starving the human mind and soul from faith, even for the existance of the most basic things, is like making the mind declare war against the body. Of course, the body will still continue to eat and drink, but the mind is not at peace with this. It's complete chaos to be a fullfledged nihilist! So self destructive, at least in my case.