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  • #31
    Re: Any nihilists in the house?

    Originally posted by Anonymouse
    Observe the buzz words in yet another mediocre herd philosophy: "ethics"; "logical"; "rational"; "moral"; "environmental"; "natural".

    By the way, can you elaborate what you meant here as I had trouble deciphering (yet again) your order of words and phrases: "needs of individuals of non-human species habitat trump wants of individual humans for a shopping mall."
    I really don't think these are 'herd' words.

    I meant that the ethical and intrinsic value (let's use a variable for a minute, for simplicity) of X is that every individual has inherent value. Humanity (X) is made up of individuals. Whales (X) are made up of individual whales. That isn't saying that the whole of all X isn't also critically important (and the whole might well equal more than sum of parts, too.) To me the ETHICAL significance of X derives from the sum of the individuals that make up X.

    The 'value' and rights of any 'species' (including Homo sapiens) stems from the sum of the value and rights of every individual. Generic "humanity" is valuable because it is made up of individuals, with intrinsic value. So, the preservation of Homo sapiens (or whales, or jaguars) derives from the rights of the individuals that make up that species.

    Difficult to explain, in an understandable way, in a short message. Let me know if that didn't make sense to you.
    Last edited by Anahita; 04-17-2006, 05:39 PM.

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    • #32
      Re: Any nihilists in the house?

      Originally posted by Anahita
      I really don't think these are 'herd' words.

      I meant that the ethical and intrinsic value (let's use a variable for a minute, for simplicity) of X is that every individual has inherent value. Humanity (X) is made up of individuals. Whales (X) are made up of individual whales. That isn't saying that the whole of all X isn't also critically important (and the whole might well equal more than sum of parts, too.) To me the ETHICAL significance of X derives from the sum of the individuals that make up X.

      The 'value' and rights of any 'species' (including Homo sapiens) stems from the sum of the value and rights of every individual. Generic "humanity" is valuable because it is made up of individuals, with intrinsic value. So, the preservation of Homo sapiens (or whales, or jaguars) derives from the rights of the individuals that make up that species.

      Difficult to explain, in an understandable way, in a short message. Let me know if that didn't make sense to you.
      So what is the point? I don't want to say that you are stating nothing more than something that is as self-evident and obvious as the sun, but it leaves me not much room. If 'philosophers' these days write books about this sort of stuff, it makes me wonder what they would be doing if there wasn't a market for it.

      Furthermore, I am still waiting for you to properly restate the example you initially made. Your arrangement of words confused me.
      Achkerov kute.

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      • #33
        Re: Any nihilists in the house?

        (to Anahita) sounds rather spiritual, in a metaphysical way, is that far off?

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        • #34
          Re: Any nihilists in the house?

          Originally posted by jgk3
          (to Anahita) sounds rather spiritual, in a metaphysical way, is that far off?
          You are following that part...

          Originally posted by Anonymouse
          So what is the point? I don't want to say that you are stating nothing more than something that is as self-evident and obvious as the sun, but it leaves me not much room. If 'philosophers' these days write books about this sort of stuff, it makes me wonder what they would be doing if there wasn't a market for it.

          Furthermore, I am still waiting for you to properly restate the example you initially made. Your arrangement of words confused me.
          What POINT are you expecting, Anonymouse? I've made many. There is no SINGLE point. Many points and many short distances between. So many people wander about, though, without seeing the short distance. (Seems clear to me... but maybe only to me )

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          • #35
            Re: Any nihilists in the house?

            Originally posted by Anahita
            You are following that part...
            What do you mean by the "are" in bold? Looks like a subtle hint to something that I have to figure out.

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            • #36
              Re: Any nihilists in the house?

              Originally posted by Anahita
              You are following that part...



              What POINT are you expecting, Anonymouse? I've made many. There is no SINGLE point. Many points and many short distances between. So many people wander about, though, without seeing the short distance. (Seems clear to me... but maybe only to me )
              Now, now, don't cry. The world is not built by tears.
              Achkerov kute.

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              • #37
                Re: Any nihilists in the house?

                I was just told that most people here neither read, let alone think about, what I say.

                Oh well... say I, "archived"

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                • #38
                  Re: Any nihilists in the house?

                  Originally posted by Anahita
                  I was just told that most people here neither read, let alone think about, what I say.

                  Oh well... say I, "archived"
                  If it makes you feel better, I make an effort to read and think about what you say, but you know I have a hard time comprehending "your style", if I may call it that.
                  Achkerov kute.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Any nihilists in the house?

                    of course we think about what you say, I'm still trying to figure out what you meant by enbolding the "are"

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                    • #40
                      Re: Any nihilists in the house?

                      Originally posted by jgk3
                      of course we think about what you say, I'm still trying to figure out what you meant by enbolding the "are"
                      See? I'm not the only one that has a hard time understanding Anahita. I think she needs to take some language lessons on proper sentence construction.
                      Achkerov kute.

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