War in The Middle East

[Azad]

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Let us not forget. It will be in the interest of all the oil rich Arabs to have a war confined in the levant region to skyrocket their oil prices. Russia will not object to it either. All games are played at the expense of the Palestinians ... it has been for over 50 years now. If Obama can act on his own decisions, he should shake hands with Iran and keep the Arab's relationship with the US healthy. That would put israel and Russia out of commission. Armenia will hurt in that equation. At the rate the US is losing grounds it will have to take an immediate decision on Iran. Shake hands or war.

[Federate]

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I agree with all above statements. I watched Al-Manar yesterday and Sayyed Nasrallah gave a brilliant speech (as usual) condemning primarily the Arab douchebags. He is one of the most charismatic figures in the world today. Words cannot describe how much disgust I have for Mubarak and his cronies and that so-called "king" of Jordan.

Let me describe to you what these two countries are. Egypt is the most populous Arab nation. Yet it FAILS to do ANYTHING and is an Israeli lapdog that pretends like it disagrees with certain aspects of Israeli politics. Egypt is a direct cause of this nakbah (disaster) as it has blockaded Gaza alongside Israel. Nasrallah called on the millions of Egyptians to hit to the streets to demand Egypt open the border, saying police cannot kill millions (Mubarak has ruled for 30 years with an iron fist and jails, kills, tortures protestors).

Jordan is pretty simple: it's a de facto base for the British MI5. Jordan cannot lift a finger without British approval. I could go on about the other Arab states but I feel Armenian's general description of them suffices and is accurate. Basically, they are all American agents who actually are at de facto peace with Israel but act like they are not.

Anyway, like I mentioned previously, Iran is the only country with balls.
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Iranian group recruits volunteers to fight Israel

TEHRAN, Iran – A group of influential conservative Iranian clerics launched an online registration drive on Monday seeking volunteers to fight against Israel in response to its air assault on the Gaza Strip.

About 3,550 people registered Monday with the Combatant Clergy Society's Web site. The weeklong online campaign gives volunteers three options on ways they can fight Israel: military, financial and propaganda.

The group, which has considerable political and economic power in Iran, did not provide further details on the program including how it would contact the volunteers or implement the program.

The conservative clerics decided to sign up volunteers after Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a religious decree on Sunday that said anyone killed while defending Palestinians in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip against Israeli attacks would be considered a martyr.

Khamenei's religious decree was not considered a government decision and did not oblige the government to launch attacks against Israel.

But Iran considers Israel its archenemy, and its President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called for the destruction of the xxxish state. Iran also is Hamas' main backer, though Tehran denies sending weapons to the Islamic militant group that took control of the Gaza Strip in June 2007.

Israel's airstrikes on the Gaza Strip have sparked outrage in Iran and throughout the rest of the Muslim world. About 300 Palestinians have been killed and more than 1,000 wounded since the air assault began Saturday. Israel says it launched its campaign in retaliation for rocket fire aimed at civilians in southern Israeli towns.

Also Monday, the Iranian Red Crescent sent a ship carrying 2,000 tons of food to Palestinians living in Gaza to be delivered via Egypt. An Iranian military plane also landed at Cairo International Airport carrying 24 tons of food and medicine destined for Gaza.

The head of Iran's Red Crescent, Masoud Khatami, said three more ships were waiting to be loaded with humanitarian aid, and Iranian hospitals were ready to receive injured Gazans, according to the official Iran news agency, IRNA.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081229/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran_israel

[Krazy]

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Turkey Ends Israel-Syria Indirect Talks over Gaza Op


Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan said Monday that the Turkish-mediated indirect talks between Israel and Syria have become "impossible" after the Israeli offensive in the Gaza Strip. "The continuation of the talks under these conditions is naturally impossible," Babacan told reporters after discussions with visiting Egyptian counterpart Ahmed Abul Gheit.

"To make war on the Israeli-Palestinian track and at the same time make peace on the Israeli-Syrian track; these two cannot go together," he said.

A Syrian official said Sunday that the indirect peace talks were halted because of Israel's "aggression" in Gaza.

Babacan recalled that Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert discussed progress in the talks in Ankara last Monday. He stressed that Israel's onslaught in Gaza, which began days afterwards on Saturday, had led to "profound regret and disappointment" in Turkey. "I repeat my call for an immediate ceasefire," Babacan said.

For his part, Abul Gheit said that his country has a personal responsibility toward Gaza and the Palestinian people calling for the reopening of the crossing between the Gaza Strip and the occupied territories. He added, “The situation in the region is very dangerous and Egypt strongly condemns all military operation against Palestinian in the Gaza strip. We call on Arab countries, Turkey and the international community to ensure the opening of the border crossing and accomplishing truce in order to put an end to the suffering of the Palestinian people.”

Meanwhile, parliamentarians in Jordan have urged their government to reconsider the Kingdom’s ties with Israel if the xxxish state does not stop its massive aggression on Gaza. Jordanian unionists are planning a march on Monday from their headquarters in Shmeisani, in west Amman, to the nearby office of Prime Minister Nader Dahabi to deliver a letter demanding Jordan scrap a 1994 peace treaty with Israel. Amman has said it is trying to "launch an Arab and international initiative aimed at ending the Israeli aggression." The Foreign Ministry on Sunday summoned the Israeli charge d'affaires in Jordan and handed him a "strongly-worded memorandum" after 30 lawmakers demanded the expulsion of the Israeli ambassador.

[Krazy]

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Reason why israel is at it again. Irritate Hezbollah and Iran to justify a large scale war and establish its usual policy with the US's new administration, before any "Obama" talk with Iran.

In my opinion, Hezbollah won't carry out any attack even though Israel is violating the international agreements and their war-planes are flying over Lebanon.

The only problem would be when Palestinians in Lebanon launch rockets from inside Lebanon (like the eight rockets which were caught few days ago) and Israel might use this to start a large scale war in the region.

[Armenian]

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"[Bush] destroys your country and you cant wait to greet him. You have no self-respect. How can you expect other people to respect Arabs if you show no respect for yourselves?"

Norman Finkelstein

Norman Finkelstein - Hezbollah, the Honour of Lebanon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDe65-nF3FQ

[Azad]

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If there is any glimmer of hope in the region its the Iran backed Hezbollah and by extension the Russian Federation.

Reason why israel is at it again. Irritate Hezbollah and Iran to justify a large scale war and establish its usual policy with the US's new administration, before any "Obama" talk with Iran.


"Israel bent on blocking Iran-US talks"

http://www.payvand.com/news/08/dec/1284.html

"Israel strike may shift Obama plan"

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16889.html

[Armenian]

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Other than the Hezbollah, the entire Arab world is scum. Look at the CIA puppets ruling in Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Gulf Arab states - 90% of the Arab world. Look at the stupid ragheads in Iraq killing each other instead of uniting against the occupiers. Look at Lebanon choosing to back stab Syria over having shallow relations with Israel and America. Generally speaking, Arabs are spineless cowards, at heart they are whores (cheep ones at that), they are two faced, they are extremely lazy and stupid. Had the Arab world had even an once of self respect the Zionist State would have disappeared long ago. The Gaza Strip and the West Bank, but in particular the Gaza Strip, are massive concentration death camps. The two regions are essentially laboratory test tubes, controlled environments, for anything the Zionist criminal wants to carry out. If for any reason they want to massacre several hundred civilians in one operation like they have done many times in the past all they have to do is have a few of their many-many Palestinian operatives in the controlled environments carry out a "suicide attack" or fire some dinky "Gasam" missile into Israel. A large percentage of Palestinians living in these concentration camps work for their oppressive masters. Palestinians are the slaves of the world most ruthless and blood thirsty nation and other than throwing some pocket change and giving lip service, the Arab world will not do shit to stop it. If there is any glimmer of hope in the region its the Iran backed Hezbollah and by extension the Russian Federation.

[jgk3]

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That's because no one cares about the Palestinians. They are considered scum amongst Arabs, so that even if they have medical degrees, they get treated as second class citizens in Arab countries. They are considered relatively expendable by the rest of the world, which is why the most you see from other countries is "condemnation" or attempts at "mediation" and no action. When it boils down to it, sacrificing relations with Israel over this massacre simply isn't profitable politically. At best it will just be used as another card in the future for major powers to assault Israel should the time ever be ripe for cutting it up and distributing its leftovers.

[Federate]

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I am simply speechless at today's massacre. I did not know the J3w could stoop to this much barbarism. It has massacred 300 people so far in less than a day. The excuse (mind you there is no excuse for massacres)? Hamas' rockets are being fired into Israel (all action has reaction?). Of course, most blindly ignore the fact that Hamas' rockets successfully hit something on a scale of 1/100 and it kills even less. Of course, most blindly ignore the fact that Hamas' rockets are HOMEMADE science projects that are in no way any match for Israeli weaponry. Of course, no one cares that Gaza has turned into the world's biggest prison. Etc.

And where are the world's biggest jokes, the Arab League? Condemning Israel. Oh wait no, Egypt and Jordan only ask for both sides to stop fighting and the former blockades Gaza alongside the J3ws. But anyway even if they did condemn, what's the use? They are a huge farce, even the UN is not as much of a comedy as the Arab world. Let those Syrians continue to sit down and have a talk and some nice chai or whatever they are having. Shame on them all. Only non-Arab Iran has any balls.

I don't even want to start with the West, the USI has already blamed the "Hamas thugs". Even the bear Russia has given a weak statement.
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[Federate]

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Syria Recognizes Lebanon's Sovereignty After 60 Years


MOSCOW -- Syria and Lebanon established diplomatic relations on Oct. 15, some 60 years after gaining independence from France in the mid-1940s. Why have they waited so long?

Lebanese Foreign Minister Fawzi Salloukh, who signed the declaration jointly with Syrian Foreign Minister Waleed al-Muallem, said Lebanese-Syrian relations were friendlier than ever.

Syrian politicians, along with a majority of their Lebanese counterparts, say the exchange of embassies is only a formality between the two brotherly states. This may be so, but the fact remains that Syria has never considered Lebanon a sovereign state. On the other hand, it saw Lebanon as an inalienable part of "Greater Syria," which once included the territory of modern Lebanon.

It is true that Syria has played a positive role in Lebanon's recent history, in particular during the 1975-1990 civil war. It deployed 35,000 soldiers to Lebanon to disengage the warring sides and prevent the country's disintegration. However, the Syrians did not leave after the civil war ended, but remained in Lebanon "to keep the peace" until 2005.

This is why some Lebanese see their "Syrian brothers" as liberators, while others curse them as occupiers. Moreover, the ruling Lebanese clans have changed their attitude toward Syria more than once, at times seeing them as friends, and other times as enemies.

Bilateral relations were most recently shattered after the assassination of former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri in February 2005. The West immediately blamed the murder on Syria's military intelligence chief, Assef Shawkat, and declared a boycott of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Syria's isolation lasted until French President Nicolas Sarkozy declared, at the Mediterranean Union Summit held in Paris last July and attended by the Syrian president, that Syria and Lebanon should establish diplomatic relations.

However, the two countries reconciled only when Lebanon elected a new president, Michel Suleiman, a figure of compromise between the pro-Western majority in parliament – the Mustaqbal movement led by Saad Hariri, the son of the assassinated Rafik Hariri – and the opposition Hezbollah movement, backed by Syrian and Iranian Shiites.

This compromise has cost the pro-Western forces in Lebanon dearly, given that, at a meeting in Doha last May, they gave the opposition the right to veto bills. At the same time, a national unity government of 30 ministers was formed, in which 16 represent the ruling coalition, 11 the opposition, and three are appointed by the president.

In addition, election legislation was amended to extend the rights of Shiite Muslims, who support Hezbollah.

In reality, this was not an internal reconciliation, but rather a camouflaged victory for the pro-Syrian and pro-Iranian forces in parliament, and hence signified the continued Syrian and Iranian influence on Lebanon's policy.

The alliance of Syria and Iran bothers not only the United States and Israel, but also the French president, the new architect of Syrian-Lebanese relations, who has more than once expressed his dislike of Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

France wants to and can become a new regional mediator in the Middle East, alongside the United States, Russia, the United Nations and the European Union, whose peacekeeping efforts in the past few years have not been effective. The goal of Sarkozy is to ease Syria and Lebanon out of Iran's grasp, an undertaking that is both openly and secretly supported by all Arab countries governed by Sunni Muslims.

Due to the overthrow of Iraq's President Saddam Hussein and the war in Iraq, Iran has become the strongest regional power in the Middle East.

The Shiite-led Iran is a theocratic state that sees itself as a messiah to the entire Muslim world. It is trying to spread its influence to all Arab countries, much to the indignation of the Sunni states, primarily Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Assad and his clan are Alawites, a small Shiite sect, whereas the majority of the Syrian population is Sunni. Hezbollah in Lebanon are also Shiites.

Before the withdrawal of Syrian troops from Lebanon, Syria and Iran considered themselves key political players on the Lebanese political scene. After the assassination of Hariri and the Syrian troop pullout, Syria's power over Lebanon was shattered – though not lost.

Although Syria has formally recognized Lebanon's sovereignty, it has retained control over its parliament and government with pro-Iranian Hezbollah, whose role was sealed by the Doha agreements.

http://www.metimes.com/Opinion/2008/10/20/syria_recognizes_lebanons_sovereignty_after_60_years/9771/