War in The Middle East

[skhara]

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Well Hezbollah is doing damage with anti-tank weapons. I think they really need some AA weapons.

[Armenian]

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TODAYS EVENTS

Twenty-four Israel Defense Forces soldiers were killed and another 11 seriously wounded in heavy clashes Saturday with Hezbollah forces in south Lebanon, after Israel dramatically expanded its ground operation in the area. Five air crewmen were believed to be dead after an Israel Air Force helicopter was shot down by Hezbollah fire late Saturday, the IDF said. Hezbollah claimed the helicopter was struck by an anti-tank missile. IDF sources confirmed a helicopter had gone down and that the five crewmen were missing.

Another good day for Allah

And take a look at this statement by the Israeli defense chief:

Defense Minister Peretz: Israel won and achieved the goals that were set (Army Radio)

Oh, really

[skhara]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krfrYZBjw3Q&eurl=

[D3ADSY]

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About what?

I don't know about destroying five tanks but they are certainly disabling and/or causing shrapnel wounds to Merkava crews from the pictures I have seen.

30 Tanks Wiped Out in Lebanon
12:01 Aug 11, '06 / 17 Av 5766

(IsraelNN.com) IDF officials admit that the biggest surprise of the ongoing war against Hizbullah is the ease by which terrorists have destroyed IDF tanks.

At least 30 tanks have been totally destroyed or seriously damaged in bomb and anti-tank rocket attacks involving state-of-the-art Russian anti-tank rockets.

About one-half of the military personnel killed in southern Lebanon were inside tanks.

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So yeah, it's looking more and more like Hizbullah were not exaggerating as much as I thought they were. But I'm still cautious, anything with tracks is a tank to most journalists.

[Anonymouse]

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I was so wrong.

About what?

[Armenian]

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I was so wrong.

So was the IDF

[D3ADSY]

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I was so wrong.

[Armenian]

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Two Merkava tanks hit by Hizbollah anti-Tank missiles just outside Merjeyoun.

Anti-tank weapons inflicting heavy losses on Israeli army

Published: Friday, 11 August, 2006, 01:26 PM Doha Time

JERUSALEM: Powerful anti-tank missiles manufactured by Russia and Iran are being used with deadly effectiveness by Hezbollah against the Israeli army in southern Lebanon, military sources say. A large proportion of the 68 Israeli soldiers who have died in south Lebanon since the start of the offensive a month ago were killed by such missiles. Top-selling daily Yediot Aharonot reported yesterday that out of 25 anti-tank missiles fired, about one-quarter of them pierced the armour of targeted tanks and caused heavy losses.

"The terrorists know where the weak spots are, and we are being badly hit," the newspaper quotes a senior official as saying. The attacks are a blow to the pride of Israel’s army. Merkava III and IV tanks are considered among the most powerful in the world and have a reputation for extremely resistant armour and protective systems. Merkavas boast 1,200 horsepower and are equipped with state-of-the-art electronic systems that should make them some of the safest and most mobile tanks in the world.

But Israel’s tanks, crucial for any ground operation in southern Lebanon, have proved vulnerable to the attacks of Hezbollah and ill-adapted to the hilly and heavily wooded terrain. Israeli military officials have also admitted surprise at the level of resistance they are meeting from Hezbollah fighters, who are well-trained and have been firing at tanks from very close range. The bulk of the Shia militia’s anti-weapons are Russian-made models, although some were manufactured in Iran, said expert Yiftah Shapir from the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies.

"The most efficient missiles are the Metis-M and the Kornet manufactured by Russia and delivered to Syria in the nineties," he said. "They are very lethal because they have been designed to penetrate active armour on modern tanks such as those the Israelis were the first to introduce in the early eighties," Shapir said. Hezbollah also has the latest Sagger missile, a Russian weapon manufactured in Iran, as well as the Russian Spigot, the expert.

These missiles have the ability to pierce armour as thick as 1m and have a range of 1.5-5km. "The Israeli army knew that Hezbollah had a large arsenal of missiles, but maybe they didn’t know they had the Metis-M and the Kornet," Shapir added. Yediot Aharonot quoted a senior military official as saying the army’s lack of preparedness for the threat of anti-tank missiles "is a bigger failure than that which preceded the Yom Kippur War."

The Israeli army has dramatically underestimated Egypt’s ground forces ahead of the 1973 Arab-Israeli conflict. "The problem isn’t technical," said Shapir. "They will always end up finding the answer to the new generation of missiles just like they did in the past." "The most important thing is that the Israeli army finally understand that they are not up against a gang of terrorists but a real army."

AFP -- http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic...7&parent_id=17

[friend]

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what's this iam hearing that california is targeted?

[Davo88]

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UN Security Council adopts Mideast resolution

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-08-12T002910Z_01_N10459214_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-UN.xml