War in The Middle East

[ARK]

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Can we get some cooperation from moderators or administration here and take off the filters on the word j-e-w???

That is ruining ALL of the articles posted here and making it senseless to copy and paste them elsewhere because you have to go through and fix all of that mess you make by your filters. It's childish and ridiculous and has certain overtones to it in case you didn't notice.

i don't understand, why there should be such a filter.
are u (moderators) afraid of something?
plz, explain more on the issue!

[ARK]

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I'm begining to like Amazon more.

I'm beginning to adore Amazon!

[Nemesis]

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Can we get some cooperation from moderators or administration here and take off the filters on the word j-e-w???

That is ruining ALL of the articles posted here and making it senseless to copy and paste them elsewhere because you have to go through and fix all of that mess you make by your filters. It's childish and ridiculous and has certain overtones to it in case you didn't notice.

[Fedayeen]

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Just come across this...

On July 12th, the Associated Press reported "The militant group Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes Wednesday across the border in southern Lebanon, prompting a swift reaction from Israel, which sent ground forces into its neighbor to look for them." This is from the article Hezbollah Captures 2 Israeli Soldiers By JOSEPH PANOSSIAN , 07.12.2006, 05:41 AM READ THE COMMENTS

http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/07/where-exactly-were-those-israeli.html

[Armenian]

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A sober Israeli analysis:

ANALYSIS: Israel failing to give U.S. the military cards it needs

By Ze'ev Schiff

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is the figure leading the strategy of changing the situation in Lebanon, not Prime Minister Ehud Olmert or Defense Minister Amir Peretz. She has so far managed to withstand international pressure in favor of a cease-fire, even though this will allow Hezbollah to retain its status as a militia armed by Iran and Syria.

As such, she needs military cards, and unfortunately Israel has not succeeded to date in providing her with any. Besides bringing Hezbollah and Lebanon under fire, all of Israel's military cards at this stage are in the form of two Lebanese villages near the border that have been captured by the IDF. If the military cards Israel is holding do not improve with the continuation of the fighting, it will result in a diplomatic solution that will leave the Hezbollah rocket arsenal in southern Lebanon in its place. The diplomatic solution will necessarily be a reflection of the military realities on the ground.

Also from the Syrian perspective there seems to be a contradiction between the American strategy and the steps Israel has taken with regards to Syria. Washington wants the solution to the problem of Hezbollah as a militia to be found in Lebanon. There are those in Washington who are recommending a connection to Syria must be found on this matter, but at the State Department and the White House they say this would simply invite Syria back into Lebanon, and this should not be allowed.

Damascus must be worried about a foiling of the American-Lebanese diplomatic plans. Syrian concerns should have stemmed from Israel, but for days now Israel is doing everything possible to convince Damascus it is not in any danger. If there is no danger from Israel, Damascus can certainly allow itself to undermine any possible plan meant to weaken and defeat Hezbollah. It will act on its own and with Iran without any fear.

Israel has limited options for continuing the fighting. Since it has not succeeded to date to restrict Hezbollah's war of attrition against urban centers in Israel, including the targeting of Afula, the only option is a rapid operation for the capture of southern Lebanon in order to destroy the Hezbollah rocket arsenal prior to the transfer of a multinational force to the area. It may have other serious options, but these will not affect the rocket arsenal of Hezbollah. This is a race against time and against Hezbollah that is aided by Syria and Iran.

The further along the diplomatic process moves, international pressure will be exercised against Israel, including by the Americans, calling for an end to the targeting of Lebanese infrastructure. There is no point mobilizing reserve divisions if they are not going to be used appropriately, from a strategic point of view, before the end of the war. The argument voiced is that the divisions are not adequately trained because of the cuts to the defense budget and it is not acceptable in view of the situation Israel is in. This is not the right time to blame the Finance Ministry, and it is not the only one to blame.

Link: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/744043.html

[skhara]

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The IDF sounds more like Baghdad Bob.

[Armenian]

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This is funny:

Israeli Media: Israeli army says Hezbollah tried to kidnap IDF soldiers in Bint Jbeil

As a result, the IDF has decided to pull out of Bint Jbeil. This is funny because for a week they were claming that the mighty IDF had occupied the area and were killing Hizbollah in the hundreds. This is even funnier because we are talking about a highly trained modern military force backed by artillery, close air support, heavy tank regiment, elite paratroopers and the "Golani" brigade.

They are opposed by the Hizbollah who are essentially gaurillas with small arms and anti-tank missiles. Not only did Hizbollah take a high toll on IDF soldiers and equipment in Bint Jbeil, they even tried to 'kidnap' more soldiers doing so. That battle must have been one hell of a fight. I'm sorry, call me weird, but that's funny.

Now the IDF is pulling back. Of course its not a 'retreat' its a 'redeplyment'

And of course they 'killed' a few hundred Hizbollah before they 'redeployed'

[Anonymouse]

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Unfortunately in this modern age of "unconventional insurgents", the ones that will inevitably lose are the average people since the "unconventional insurgents" freely use them as a layer of security.

In this age of unconventional insurgents, it is ultimately the responsiblity of those that are being used as decoys to watch out for themselves.

Now in the case of Israel and Lebanon, it is obvious that what Israel is doing is exactly as you said anon ... trying to address its weakness as a "sitting duck" against a VERY dangerous enemy that is completely intertwined with "regular" civilians. However, I think Lebanon also deserves part of the blame for letting it get to this point ... after all, there are obviously a very non trivial number of missles directed towards Israel from Lebanese soil so it's not like Israel marched in for absolutely no reason (even though they are doing it like rabid dogs).

Israel blames Lebanon constantly for not disarming Hezbollah. In reality, the Lebanese state is very weak and fragile and could not do so. Hell, Israel occupied Lebanon since 1982 and even it couldn't disarm Hezbollah, why is it casting stones on Lebanon?

[EMRE]

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This is the most complete article I have seen that encapsulates and summarizes neatly the recent activities in the Middle East to give a glimpse of the bigger picture and geopolitical situation of the region. If you follow the link, he actually links alot to other sources to confirm alot of the things stated herein.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/hirsch1.html

Hi!!your article reminds me armagedon..this name always evokes conspiracy the secret war between turkey and israel.a book released in turkey in 1999 by a retired naval officer,wrote secret cospiracies against turkey and turkey's unity.you can say israel and turkey are very fraternal relations,because they share the same politics in the middle east.there are some military cooperation and agreements between the two countries.but actually,israel teaches war arts to PKK terrorists to cause inconvenience and instability in turkey.israel always wants to create an independant kurdish state in northen iraq,but turkey averts this with premedition..israel agents alwalys very actively spy against turkish intelligence in northen Iraq.I think in the near future israel and turkey will confront on account of regional crisis? can they wage war?

[Sip]

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Unfortunately in this modern age of "unconventional insurgents", the ones that will inevitably lose are the average people since the "unconventional insurgents" freely use them as a layer of security.

In this age of unconventional insurgents, it is ultimately the responsiblity of those that are being used as decoys to watch out for themselves.

Now in the case of Israel and Lebanon, it is obvious that what Israel is doing is exactly as you said anon ... trying to address its weakness as a "sitting duck" against a VERY dangerous enemy that is completely intertwined with "regular" civilians. However, I think Lebanon also deserves part of the blame for letting it get to this point ... after all, there are obviously a very non trivial number of missles directed towards Israel from Lebanese soil so it's not like Israel marched in for absolutely no reason (even though they are doing it like rabid dogs).