Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

[Hyreniq]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

She didn't leave me for financial reasons, and she was no gold-digger

Some how you've answered my question.

[Mos]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

I agree with you 100%; whichever man eventually gets to marry you will be truly blessed

I'm not Armenian (I'm British) but I once dated an Armenian girl. She made it very clear to me that we could not have full s*x and I could not, ahem, pleasure her, other than by getting married. Unfortunately there were some differences between us and we split up. If we'd had s*x I think the emotional involvement would have been even greater and so it would have been more upsetting for both of us, and of course it would have made it a lot harder for her to date or marry an Armenian man.

Some people here have said that the hymen is just a piece of skin, it does not matter and it can be broken by riding a bicycle or doing gymnastics as a child. And it can be re-created by a doctor or taken by a rapist. Of course, they are right. I don't think a girl gains any respect or nobility simply by having the physical sign of virginity, she gets it by being pure, which means not having s*x or being pleasured by a man before marriage or pleasuring herself.

Others have said that it is a double standard if men can do things before marriage that women can't. This is also true. But do we really want men and women to be the same? In many ways, women are much better than men. One of their many forms of superiority is that they have greater self control and are capable of much bigger sacrifices. With my ex there were many times she was very aroused and badly wanted to have s*x or an org**m but she was strong and resisted because she wanted these things to happen first with her eventual husband. It was very hard for me but I went along with that, so actually by being strong she made me stronger and purer as well, which is typical of how women help us men to be better people than we would otherwise be

Was she assimilated Armenian or recent immigrant from Armenia?

[London]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Was she assimilated Armenian or recent immigrant from Armenia?

She was born and educated in the UK but her parents were born in Armenia and the family spoke their own language at home. So I guess somewhere in between...

[Mos]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

She was born and educated in the UK but her parents were born in Armenia and the family spoke their own language at home. So I guess somewhere in between...

That explains a lot.

[Mos]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Did you ever face her parents? especially father?

[London]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Did you ever face her parents? especially father?

Yes, they were both very nice, polite and quite formal, especially her father. I think it was partly out of love for them hat she had decided to stay pure until marriage. They were very close as a family and I don't think she wanted to disappoint them. Also she had an older sister who she said had sex with a man when she'd had too much to drink and from that time onward didn't date anyone and accepted she would forever be a spinster and childless, and my then girlfriend very much wanted to stay a virgin because in her mind that was the only way she could one day marry and give her parents the grandchildren they yearned for.

[Mos]

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Yes, they were both very nice, polite and quite formal, especially her father. I think it was partly out of love for them hat she had decided to stay pure until marriage. They were very close as a family and I don't think she wanted to disappoint them. Also she had an older sister who she said had sex with a man when she'd had too much to drink and from that time onward didn't date anyone and accepted she would forever be a spinster and childless, and my then girlfriend very much wanted to stay a virgin because in her mind that was the only way she could one day marry and give her parents the grandchildren they yearned for.

So what ever happened to that older sister? Very unfortunate that it happened to her and I'm sure the males around her took advantage. So was that sticking to virginity reason why you broke off?

[London]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

So what ever happened to that older sister? Very unfortunate that it happened to her and I'm sure the males around her took advantage. So was that sticking to virginity reason why you broke off?

What happened to her sister was really sad. She was dating a guy for a long time, I think they could have been engaged. They got drunk one night and had sex. He ended the relationship as a result. In the culture of her family, if a girl loses her virginity before marriage she is considered unmarriageable and also shameful/unclean and hence unworthy of dating. So she now lives as a lifelong spinster. She also re-trained to be a primary school teacher because she loves children and is resigned to never having them and that job is as near as she can get to having kids of her own.

As for my ex, no we didn't end it because she wanted to stay pure for marriage. As long as I felt that we might one day marry I was very happy with that arrangement because of course it's much nicer for a man if his bride is pure. And although she wouldn't have full sex or let me do certain things to please her, there were things she did to please me that like any man I enjoyed very much .

We split up because we jointly decided that there were too many differences in temperament between us for us to make a happy marriage. But I admired her greatly because she was a very honest, cultured, kind, family-oriented person and I would happily date and maybe marry an Armenian woman in the future if I had the opportunity.

[Mos]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

What happened to her sister was really sad. She was dating a guy for a long time, I think they could have been engaged. They got drunk one night and had sex. He ended the relationship as a result. In the culture of her family, if a girl loses her virginity before marriage she is considered unmarriageable and also shameful/unclean and hence unworthy of dating. So she now lives as a lifelong spinster. She also re-trained to be a primary school teacher because she loves children and is resigned to never having them and that job is as near as she can get to having kids of her own.

As for my ex, no we didn't end it because she wanted to stay pure for marriage. As long as I felt that we might one day marry I was very happy with that arrangement because of course it's much nicer for a man if his bride is pure. And although she wouldn't have full sex or let me do certain things to please her, there were things she did to please me that like any man I enjoyed very much .

We split up because we jointly decided that there were too many differences in temperament between us for us to make a happy marriage. But I admired her greatly because she was a very honest, cultured, kind, family-oriented person and I would happily date and maybe marry an Armenian woman in the future if I had the opportunity.

Well I know very well about the marriage culture, yes such mistakes can make you unworthy to make a stable Armenian family, and either you marry someone who doesn't care about that or just live your life without ever having family. Remaining pure till marriage is very important and I'm glad that is an important element in our traditions. Unfortunately, some of the Western corruptions aim at destroying that in favour of the so called "sexual revolution". Though I'm happy to say such a revolution has not happened in our society because there's a movement among the youth to keep our traditional values.

UK though has a rather small Armenian population (e.g. only 589 Armenia-born people in UK). You come across Armenians often? So what happened to your ex, did she marry eventually? Of course, if she desired to have an Armenian family, she would have to marry an Armenian...

[London]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Well I know very well about the marriage culture, yes such mistakes can make you unworthy to make a stable Armenian family, and either you marry someone who doesn't care about that or just live your life without ever having family. Remaining pure till marriage is very important and I'm glad that is an important element in our traditions. Unfortunately, some of the Western corruptions aim at destroying that in favour of the so called "sexual revolution". Though I'm happy to say such a revolution has not happened in our society because there's a movement among the youth to keep our traditional values.

UK though has a rather small Armenian population (e.g. only 589 Armenia-born people in UK). You come across Armenians often? So what happened to your ex, did she marry eventually? Of course, if she desired to have an Armenian family, she would have to marry an Armenian...

I think the Armenian culture is a good one because of the high moral standards and focus on the family that it offers, which contrast to how mainstream culture is in the country where I live (the UK). For instance because of what happened to her sister my ex was doubly keen to stay pure because she knew her parents badly wanted grandchildren and that they would never get them from her sister. So her sister's big mistake had a positive impact on her own morality and behaviour.

Unfortunately my ex and her family are the only Armenians I've ever met and even then, only the parents were actually born in Armenia, the girls were born in the UK. I would love to date and marry another Armenian but I am realistic, I know there are very few in my country so the chances are low

The last I heard, my ex was still unmarried, but was dating another Englishman.