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The posts were deleted because they were offensive, deviated from the coherence of the thread and were going to brew more childishness. Anoush, I don't know why you snapped, but refrain from using that sort of language on the forums. This is a warning to you, as I won't warn again. Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean you must start washing them in f-bombs and so forth.
For God's sake people look around you. 80% divorces in the West and everyone is chasing a momentary "happiness". There is a new word for it "soulmate". I have lived in many European countries and have seen their gradual decay, but the American society is the worse at best.
You seem not to be so happy with this new world 'order', Azad.
I'm missing something here Anoush. What part of Azad's opinion got you so pissed off? Would you not agree that too many people in the so called "west" have very lax morals? And to make matters worse it has spread to the former communist countries and other parts of the world.
That is how I took his post, that it in the long run it doesn't matter if you plan on living in the "west", that eventually the society which has been so corrupted by various facets will drive either you or a loved one to be just as decadent and self absorbed as everyone else.
I have no clue why she snapped. I am talking from my own experience.
I made the mistake to be part of the West. I take the whole responsibility to face my own reality. You will too, one day.
Why was my post deleted?
For God's sake people look around you. 80% divorces in the West and everyone is chasing a momentary "happiness". There is a new word for it "soulmate". I have lived in many European countries and have seen their gradual decay, but the American society is the worse at best.
"Moreover, social and moral decline and cultural decadence go hand in hand with the death of republics and the end of empires."
Pat Buchanan.
I tell you who is going to be fcked; you, your mother, your sisters, your wife and your kids!!!!!!
I'm missing something here Anoush. What part of Azad's opinion got you so pissed off? Would you not agree that too many people in the so called "west" have very lax morals? And to make matters worse it has spread to the former communist countries and other parts of the world.
That is how I took his post, that it in the long run it doesn't matter if you plan on living in the "west", that eventually the society which has been so corrupted by various facets will drive either you or a loved one to be just as decadent and self absorbed as everyone else.
So once you get married and give yourself to him what else would he have to work for? It's partly already setting up for failure. And if you think about it that way, you're selling your body for love. You entice him, but deny him, unless he treats you right and courts you, and then proposes and marries you, so he can take care of you, and then he can have you.
OK there are two subject matters here, I guess I have to spell it out:
a) For the more conventional ones virginity is expected before marriage.
b) For in today's mentalities; (and this is for the ladies only) it's OK to have it when IN LOVE, but wait it out for a while to have both his interest for a longer period of time and possibly his respect as well.
After marriage, of course if it only pertains to sexual relations you will have to have the honeymoon and hopefully for the rest of your life too; but there are other ways to have a man to keep coming back to you and yearn for you time and time again. And yes while you are having constant sexual relations with him there are ways to have the flame on for always. And it's not only about sex; but other things too, btw; open communication, similar worldly passions, understanding, love, respect, appreciation, spending valuable times together and finally patience.
I guess you could call me old fashioned; but I don't agree for a woman to have sexual relations before marriage. I just don't think that it's good moral standards and I don't think Armenian men in general would appreciate or would like loose women. Also, generally men would like to fight their way through to find out the sexuality of a woman and how she would be in bed; and the minute a woman gives herself away completely, usually the yearning and all the work for the man to get there starts subsiding. I think the longer a woman keeps her sexuality under covers the more alluring she would be for the man and it'll give him something hard to work for.
So once you get married and give yourself to him what else would he have to work for? It's partly already setting up for failure. And if you think about it that way, you're selling your body for love. You entice him, but deny him, unless he treats you right and courts you, and then proposes and marries you, so he can take care of you, and then he can have you.
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