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  • Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

    Originally posted by Italia brrro
    You say he contributed to the decadence of his people, but that happened when Armenians came to the U.S.
    No, this is a wrong statement. People first came to America in droves in the 1920s and 30s due to the Genocide. Armenia was shut off from the world due to the Iron Curtain of the USSR so that wasn't an option.

    Recently, they have been coming since the 70s, 80s, and early 90s due to very harsh socio-economic factors i.e. either starve or move. Armenia has improved since those harsh times but their immigration had nothing to do with "decadence". It had to do with self-preservation.

    Of course, this is not true in all situations.

    I see more and more Armenians assimilating into the U.S. culture, and before you know it, they will be just like everyone else. There is certainly nothing wrong with that. Let them be a people in Armenia.
    We should preserve Armenian culture in the US only to the extent that we plan to repatriate.

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    • Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

      He thinks he's so politically incorrect.

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      • Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

        Originally posted by Italia brrro
        And another question, why move back to a poverty stricken third world country? Is salvaging your culture that important to you?
        Oh noes.... Prepare to die, guido
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        • Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

          Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
          No, this is a wrong statement. People first came to America in droves in the 1920s and 30s due to the Genocide. Armenia was shut off from the world due to the Iron Curtain of the USSR so that wasn't an option.

          Recently, they have been coming since the 70s, 80s, and early 90s due to very harsh socio-economic factors i.e. either starve or move. Armenia has improved since those harsh times but their immigration had nothing to do with "decadence". It had to do with self-preservation.

          Of course, this is not true in all situations.

          We should preserve Armenian culture in the US only to the extent that we plan to repatriate.
          I'm not completely acquainted with Armenian history my humble apologies. I do agree with your last statement.

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          • Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

            Originally posted by Italia brrro
            And another question, why move back to a poverty stricken third world country? Is salvaging your culture that important to you?
            Ignoring all the bad connotations of "third world" (it's considered "second world" by American standards):

            We should move back to participate in nation building. Who else will bring up Armenia to a level of sustainability and economic growth if not individual Armenians? It's time for Armenians to take responsibility for the economic, political, and social stability of Armenia.

            In short: If Armenians don't stick up for Armenians and Armenia, who will?

            The Armenian Revolutionary Federation is the best example of an organization devoted to achieving these goals.

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            • Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

              Originally posted by Armenian View Post
              Oh noes.... Prepare to die, guido
              brrro no you did not!

              But seriously, I am not asking to be malicious, I have always wondered what was so important about preserving Armenian culture and moving back to Armenia. It's part of the reason why I joined this forum.

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              • Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

                Originally posted by Italia brrro View Post
                brrro no you did not!

                But seriously, I am not asking to be malicious, I have always wondered what was so important about preserving Armenian culture and moving back to Armenia. It's part of the reason why I joined this forum.
                I'm not sure how much they'll like this comparison, but it's kind of like Zionism.

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                • Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

                  Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
                  Ignoring all the bad connotations of "third world" (it's considered "second world" by American standards):

                  We should move back to participate in nation building. Who else will bring up Armenia to a level of sustainability and economic growth if not individual Armenians? It's time for Armenians to take responsibility for the economic, political, and social stability of Armenia.

                  In short: If Armenians don't stick up for Armenians and Armenia, who will?

                  The Armenian Revolutionary Federation is the best example of an organization devoted to achieving these goals.
                  Were you born in America or Armenia? Do you personally feel an obligation of building the country and such? If so, why?

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                  • Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

                    Except, unlike Zionists, we actually have a right to the land we have.

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                    • Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

                      Originally posted by TomServo View Post
                      I'm not sure how much they'll like this comparison, but it's kind of like Zionism.
                      I suppose that makes sense, but I don't think that a lot of Armenians think this way, but yet still choose to date within their kind. Most of the ones I talk to in person just say they grew up being taught from their parents that it is good to stay within their kind. However, they have no intentions of moving back to the "motherland". They have enjoyed the prosperity and opportunity that the U.S. offers and aren't willing to leave it all behind. So what gives?

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