Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

[Armanen]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

I am so pleased that we can talk and agree in most point of views.

Just one thing. Never crossed my mind that the majority of you guys abused physically your wives. God forbid it. However is some degree that happened in all cultures.

Yes, it happens in all countries and among all peoples. I know that machismo is an issue in Latin America as well, especially in Mexico and Argentina.

[Anoush]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

I am so pleased that we can talk and agree in most point of views.

Just one thing. Never crossed my mind that the majority of you guys abused physically your wives. God forbid it. However is some degree that happened in all cultures.

No jmm, I didn't say that the majority of our men physically abuse their wives. I know that my father didn't do it and neither my grandfather nor three of my uncles. I believe that the majority of Armenian men do not abuse their wives or children. If a few do, so does every other nationality. I also said above that you DO NOT hear any Armenian man ever making headlines of killing their wives or their children. I still maintain that Armenian men are good breadwinners and they love their families and their children.

[Catharsis]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

Absolutely!, Actually, no that I am gonna married this girl but if I'd do, I will be more than please to spend some time in Armenia, and of course in my country, and honestly more in Armenia since here there are a LOT of latino jejejeje.

But at the end, no matter how much effort we will put, ours kids would decide theirself which culture is more appealing for them, and I am guessing here, but I think they will become simply Americans. In the event, they feel a strong sense for Armenia, I will be more than pleased since it is the land of the woman I love, and above all you are a christian culture, which is very important to me.

You are right Jmm7, in Western US, in states like California there are parts you can go on without English and feel like you are part of Latin America. I think that is great, there are many enclaves in US that have ethnic connections and you can literally drive from one city to another to experience "world cultures" so do speak. This is a great thing, and we should not lose that, you are right about the choices though, the offspring of second, third generations etc. go with the "corporate American" culture, which is not based on real values but more of a commercialized consumer mindset, this is what I think is troubling, because this is not healthy in my humble opinion, and we are losing more time tested traditional values that traditional cultures embody and cherish.

I applaud your interest in Armenia, btw, you will find it that it is as much as open minded as any nation and country when it comes to other cultures and peoples. Most important in all of this is a healthy balance, to know about your heritage and also learn from other cultures that are just as valuable.

[Siggie]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

Guys, please use the multi-quote to quote several posts rather than posting two or three times in a row. The multi-quote button (with "+ on it) is the one to the right of the regular "quote."
To use it, hit that for every post you want to quote, except for the very last one. On the last one, you hit the regular quote button. So, if you want to quote 2 of them then for the first one you hit multiquote and for the second one, the regular quote.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

If you read Armenian history you will understand why it is so important for Armenians to keep their identity, best way of doing that is living in Armenia, second best, if an Armenian is outside of the Homeland, is to marry an Armenian.

See if Mexico or some other Latin country's people lost their country or even if the majority of Mexicans were wiped out, their culture and the remaining Mexicans would be able to continue in the many other Latin countries and still have more less the same culture. With Armenia that is not the case, none of our neighboring countries nor any other country for that matter resemble us enough for the above scenario to work for us.

Entirely incorrect, you assume all Mexicans to be the same and all "latinos" to be the same, look at our culture and history, mostly Mexican culture the music, the food, the folklore, the dances, etc. cannot be found outside of Mexico generally as we draw our culture from Mayan and Nahuatl culture with some Spanish influence, we are descended from the indigenous people and are indigenous people we were forced to speak Spanish.

That is real cultural Genocide, while I agree that anyone should be allowed to marry within their own culture if they so choose, the same right should go for those practising exogamy, if mixed Armenians were treated the same as full bloods and not ostracized alot wouldn't want to assimilate.

Am I saying that mixed marriage should be encouraged, no, am I saying that it should discouraged, no. I am merely saying no one has the right to interfere with an individual's liberty, most Armenians will marry Armenians anyway, so its not the end of the world if a few marry otars.
According to a report 55% of Armenians are women, no if Armenians were to only marry Armenians, there would still be 5% who are single, meaning in short about 100 000 women more or less, should they all become chattel or what should become of them, may they never marry or enter polygamy instead? I cannot recall who did the report, but as soon as I find it I shall attach.

There are less Cherokee than Armenians, they aren't gone, and they aren't as old as Armenians, or for that matter Mayans and Nahuatls (Toltec, Aztec, etc.). The Chinese at a stage encouraged interethnic marriage and they are the largest ethnic group most of whom are Han Chinese, so bear that in mind as well

Y'all assume that DNA equals culture,whereas most Armenians just like any other race, aren't pure, racial purity is a myth, many Armenians intermarried with Persians, Georgians and Greeks. and many of those assimilated as Armenians as well.

Now let me show you actual Mexican stats, worldwide there are only 8 Million Mayans, and only 1.3 Million Nahuatls, plus the other Indians in Mexico and those defined by government as Mestizo (meaning in Mexico a Spanish speaking Indian as Mexico doesn't take race into regard).

We are not the same, the other Indians had different cultures, different history, just because we were colonized by Spain doesn't make us less Indian and less unique, I'd recommend visiting Bolivia vs Guatemala to get an actual perspective on our people. Why do you think they call it Mexican food and not Hispanic food

[Sip]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

Never mind...
I've been reading some topics in this forum, and I just found out that you only like Armenians.

Weird.

It will quickly become less weird as you learn more about Armenian history. Armenians have had to struggle a lot to preserve themselves so our mere existence today is due to this what you call "weirdness".

Of course the world is changing VERY quickly now and pretty much all cultures in the world well on their way to become a very entertaining mix. Some people are naturally affraid of it but in my opinion, this change is unavoidable.

However, I do not think we will all become indistinguishable, identity-less, semi-brown people. No ... I think our differences will emerge in much more unique ways and will no longer be defined by "race" and geographical regions. We'll end up grouping by ideologies, interests, and other aspects rather than race. Buuuuuut that's kinda besides the point as what I think will happen in the next few hundred years is irrelevant in what you are asking here.

To answer your question, you have to evaluate his or her parents. If they are open to it, you have a chance. Otherwise, any relationship is severely doomed from the get-go.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

It will quickly become less weird as you learn more about Armenian history. Armenians have had to struggle a lot to preserve themselves so our mere existence today is due to this what you call "weirdness".

Of course the world is changing VERY quickly now and pretty much all cultures in the world well on their way to become a very entertaining mix. Some people are naturally affraid of it but in my opinion, this change is unavoidable.

However, I do not think we will all become indistinguishable, identity-less, semi-brown people. No ... I think our differences will emerge in much more unique ways and will no longer be defined by "race" and geographical regions. We'll end up grouping by ideologies, interests, and other aspects rather than race. Buuuuuut that's kinda besides the point as what I think will happen in the next few hundred years is irrelevant in what you are asking here.

To answer your question, you have to evaluate his or her parents. If they are open to it, you have a chance. Otherwise, any relationship is severely doomed from the get-go.

Personally, I think the intermixing is a temporary anomally... people aren't mixing by choice, their lives are being decided more or less by educational intitutions, governments and corporations. The world can't function without race (differing people competing against one another). Personally, I'm attracted to culture... however I think most races have lost their sense of culture since women and men no longer have separate roles and culture is being upheld by business.

[Armanen]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

Entirely incorrect, you assume all Mexicans to be the same and all "latinos" to be the same, look at our culture and history, mostly Mexican culture the music, the food, the folklore, the dances, etc. cannot be found outside of Mexico generally as we draw our culture from Mayan and Nahuatl culture with some Spanish influence, we are descended from the indigenous people and are indigenous people we were forced to speak Spanish.

That is real cultural Genocide, while I agree that anyone should be allowed to marry within their own culture if they so choose, the same right should go for those practising exogamy, if mixed Armenians were treated the same as full bloods and not ostracized alot wouldn't want to assimilate.

Am I saying that mixed marriage should be encouraged, no, am I saying that it should discouraged, no. I am merely saying no one has the right to interfere with an individual's liberty, most Armenians will marry Armenians anyway, so its not the end of the world if a few marry otars.
According to a report 55% of Armenians are women, no if Armenians were to only marry Armenians, there would still be 5% who are single, meaning in short about 100 000 women more or less, should they all become chattel or what should become of them, may they never marry or enter polygamy instead? I cannot recall who did the report, but as soon as I find it I shall attach.

There are less Cherokee than Armenians, they aren't gone, and they aren't as old as Armenians, or for that matter Mayans and Nahuatls (Toltec, Aztec, etc.). The Chinese at a stage encouraged interethnic marriage and they are the largest ethnic group most of whom are Han Chinese, so bear that in mind as well

Y'all assume that DNA equals culture,whereas most Armenians just like any other race, aren't pure, racial purity is a myth, many Armenians intermarried with Persians, Georgians and Greeks. and many of those assimilated as Armenians as well.

Now let me show you actual Mexican stats, worldwide there are only 8 Million Mayans, and only 1.3 Million Nahuatls, plus the other Indians in Mexico and those defined by government as Mestizo (meaning in Mexico a Spanish speaking Indian as Mexico doesn't take race into regard).

We are not the same, the other Indians had different cultures, different history, just because we were colonized by Spain doesn't make us less Indian and less unique, I'd recommend visiting Bolivia vs Guatemala to get an actual perspective on our people. Why do you think they call it Mexican food and not Hispanic food

I understand the differences between Mexicans and Columbians or Bolivians for an example, but you can not possibly claim that there is any country in the world that is as close to Armenian culture and ethnicity as Mexico is to any other Latin American country.

[Armanen]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

Personally, I think the intermixing is a temporary anomally... people aren't mixing by choice, their lives are being decided more or less by educational intitutions, governments and corporations. The world can't function without race (differing people competing against one another). Personally, I'm attracted to culture... however I think most races have lost their sense of culture since women and men no longer have separate roles and culture is being upheld by business.

Well put. It is in the interest of the super elite to have mindless consumers who live the artificial lifestyle that mtv or what have you tells them to.

[Sip]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

On a completely unrelated note, does ANYONE watch MTV anymore?