I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

[Mos]

Re: I am Azery and GAY. Not sure if feminine, masculine.

And which "great" nation accepted homosexuality first and now is that proud ... being the first?

probably greeks - they talk about it in their ancient literature

[gegev]

Re: I am Azery and GAY. Not sure if feminine, masculine.

I think that the resentment of homosexuality that a lot of people have is mainly due to the Abrahamic religions, and Christianity just has too great of a hold on "the first nation to have officially adopted Christianity".

And which "great" nation accepted homosexuality first and now is that proud ... being the first?

[Siggie]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

in what way?

In a good one.

[Mos]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

You've been surprising me lately.

in what way?

[Siggie]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

In my view, "homosexuality" is a combination of genetic and environmental factors, though I tend to think it is more genetic than environmental.

You've been surprising me lately.

[Siggie]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Whether it's "100% genetic" or not is of no importance. You just can't change the fact that gays and lesbians are going to be among us and the only solution to this issue is to accept them. That's where Western countries are heading to.



I don't think that gays can pretend to be straight or attempt heterosexual relationships, but I guess bisexuals can pretend to be straight.

I was thinking of the ones who are in situations where those around them convince them that they might in fact be "sick" or "broken" in a way that requires fixing. I suppose this would be more likely with increasing levels of religiosity as well. I don't mean people who intend to pretend.

[Mos]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

In my view, "homosexuality" is a combination of genetic and environmental factors, though I tend to think it is more genetic than environmental.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

I don't think that gays can pretend to be straight or attempt heterosexual relationships, but I guess bisexuals can pretend to be straight.

Hmm... interesting social experiment. I wonder how many would pretend to be straight or at least hide it in public if there was a "gay" tax. Man, it would rule to play Caesar.

[Davo88]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Whether it's "100% genetic" or not is of no importance. You just can't change the fact that gays and lesbians are going to be among us and the only solution to this issue is to accept them. That's where Western countries are heading to.

Seriously? Did you not think this through?

Something having a hereditary/genetic component points to biology, but not everyone that passes along that genetic information is homosexual.
Also, if we force people to be something they're not (with attitudes such as those you're exhibiting), then more homosexuals feel pressure to try to be heterosexual, attempt heterosexual relationships, and reproduce.

I don't think that gays can pretend to be straight or attempt heterosexual relationships, but I guess bisexuals can pretend to be straight.

[Siggie]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Yes but every time that genetic code is triggered, it stops from being passed down. It's not a virus, it doesn't spread. It's really like a null code with an end statement.

Let's suppose it is hereditary/genetic and let's say scientists found a way to test prior to pregnancy. What do you think the rates of abortion would be? Is homosexuality a desirable trait that people would honestly claim they want? After all, the point of reproduction is survival.

By the way, I have no hostility towards gay people but what I disagree with is the notion that it's 100% genetic.

There's enough for it to continue in the gene pool. I just gave you an example of how although "triggered" (I guess you mean if a person is homosexual?) it could still be passed along.

I don't think I ever claimed it was 100% genetic. Not 100% of the variance has been explained, so I wouldn't say that.