Theories of Love

[spiral]

Originally posted by Anonymouse So since we agree that there is mind over body, I will never allow myself to fall in love with a non-Armenian.

Nor would I

[Wise]

Women are loveless

Hello My friend! I am a new user! I am happy to this altercation with you! I love Romantic life! Love,what is found in my deep heart! BUT!!Women are loveless!!isn't it Bro?? It talk with my acquaintance and with experience!The female is loveless. She desires DRAMA, she desires problems, she desires imperfection. The woman when goes through her young female years with her beauty begins to learn the power of it, the effect it has on men. She becomes desired by a number of men, this it self taps her ego, she is asked out, she says no, yes, no yes. She ever dates if the man is attractive, she dates if the man is successful, she dates if he is rich. She cares not if a man loves her. When she reaches this type of man, this man that is capble of deep love, she doesn't understand it. She doesn't want this, she wants to go out party, be seen with powerful men, to flaut her male, to make other woman evny her for her man. This type of man does not love, it's action that he takes that makes him more attractive to her.

You have all heard about woman, they state they desire a challenge a man that is not needy, this means a man doesn't fall into deep love. To a woman, when her man sleeps with another woman, she trys even harder to pls this man, it not because she loves the man, they can't they are incapble, it is because she doesn't want to be alone, she doesn't want the shame of losing this high class male and so the other females not to tease her on her loss. If another man comes into the picture while this relationship is going, he is more successful, higher class than the ones she is with. She states to the current boyfriend it's over because your cheater, but in fact it's because she has found another man that she flaut to her female friends much higher then the old one. She lies about the cheating so the moral world(men) can not despise her. where the xxxx is LOVE?? I know it is exist!!I am metarialism...BUT!! its all about BUT!! i still have more about WOmen!! i will right you then!! just reply me back!! dont YOu think i have rights??

[anileve]

Originally posted by Anonymouse So since we agree that there is mind over body, I will never allow myself to fall in love with a non-Armenian.

That’s absurd, how can you tune your feelings? If it was that easy to condition ourselves to love someone, there wouldn’t be so many single people around. Human soul has no barriers, it carries a certain emotional connection that cannot be enforced or replicated, it’s unique and unexplainable. Love recognizes no racial differences, nor material factors, that’s pure love. But if you are determined to choose a partnership in order to keep the bloodline pure, well then it’s for the mere goal of preserving the gene pool rather than obeying heart’s desires.

[Sip]

Originally posted by anileve That’s absurd, how can you tune your feelings? If it was that easy to condition ourselves to love someone, there wouldn’t be so many single people around.

Maybe that's exactly the reason why there are so many younger singles as they choose to explore rather than to love Then as time goes on, trends seem to indicate that the tuning tends to favor love to exploring and at some point they stop their search and settle for their currently found "true" love. Just exactly when that threshold is crossed of course varies greatly from person to person.

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by anileve That’s absurd, how can you tune your feelings? If it was that easy to condition ourselves to love someone, there wouldn’t be so many single people around. Human soul has no barriers, it carries a certain emotional connection that cannot be enforced or replicated, it’s unique and unexplainable. Love recognizes no racial differences, nor material factors, that’s pure love. But if you are determined to choose a partnership in order to keep the bloodline pure, well then it’s for the mere goal of preserving the gene pool rather than obeying heart’s desires.

Call it absurd lady, but that is the way it goes. It's that simple, I have control over whether or not I fall in love.

No one said the human soul has any barriers, and love does indeed have no boundaries. That doesn't mean one cannot exercise control over oneself.

And this is not about "keeping the bloodline pure", for the record.

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by spiral Thus, it’s not about love, its about benefiting from a relationship. The symbiosis simply ensures the relationship because each benefits from it, and thus have a reason to stay.

What is this? An attempt to define love out of existence? Does this mean no human emotion is real, for all are manifestations of self-interest?

And you mentioned this earlier stating that “it is outside of human nature to do things for a person without expecting anything in return.”

What's wrong with wanting something in return? If I did indeed say expecting, that's probably too strong a word, but certainly people would like something in return. Nonetheless, I would say most parents continue to love children that are complete *ssholes and give absolutely nothing back.

So exactly what are you arguing, and what am I wrong about?

That there is a difference between self-interest and selfishness. Also, just because a person benefits from an act does not mean necessarily that act was done so that the person would benefit. That assumption is logical fallacy, and the fact is, you can't possibly claim to know a person's motivation. Heck, most of the time, people don't know their own motivation.

Please tell me, exactly how is this a contradiction?

If every act is done out of an unconscious cost/benefit analysis to maximize self-interest, then conscious control is only an illusion. You are not in control. You have no choice but to do that which is best for your own interest.

[spiral]

Originally posted by anileve That’s absurd, how can you tune your feelings? If it was that easy to condition ourselves to love someone, there wouldn’t be so many single people around. Human soul has no barriers, it carries a certain emotional connection that cannot be enforced or replicated, it’s unique and unexplainable. Love recognizes no racial differences, nor material factors, that’s pure love. But if you are determined to choose a partnership in order to keep the bloodline pure, well then it’s for the mere goal of preserving the gene pool rather than obeying heart’s desires.

It’s not so much the ability to condition yourself to love someone, rather the ability to condition yourself to NOT love someone. And still- It’s not so much the ability to condition yourself to NOT love someone, but the ability to condition yourself to not act on your emotions.

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by spiral It’s not so much the ability to condition yourself to love someone, rather the ability to condition yourself to NOT love someone. And still- It’s not so much the ability to condition yourself to NOT love someone, but the ability to condition yourself to not act on your emotions.

Indeed, mind over body keeps a strong character.

[spiral]

Originally posted by loseyourname

If every act is done out of an unconscious cost/benefit analysis to maximize self-interest, then conscious control is only an illusion. You are not in control. You have no choice but to do that which is best for your own interest.

First off, I wasn't talking about every act, I was talking about love.

However, I believe that every act should be that of conscious selfishness, rather than unconscious selfishness. And because I believe that all acts should be of conscious selfishness, my belief of having conscious control is still valid.

[loseyourname]

So you choose to do what you would otherwise do anyway? Sounds quite appealing. Also sounds like you have little choice.