Theories of Love

[Wise]

Life-A comedy

Guys..heal...everything is comedy...dont be that serious.What a fine comedy this world would be if one did not play a part in it!so LET US ROCK'n ROLL!!
Nice meeting all of you!
we have one life to live,Remember that no man loses any other life than this which he now lives, nor lives any other than this which he now loses.

[PASAMONSTER]

like that saying wise

[anileve]

I don't understand the concept of controlling who you chose to fall in love with. If the statement is true then it is also true that you can condition yourself to fall in love as well. People seem to accept one theory without a consideration and acceptance of the other. Love is indeed an act of harboring ones selfishness by allowing the illusion of altruism . It is the idea of love that we fall in love with, not the person. The reason why you might fall in love or love someone is because in the essence that person makes you feel wonderful about yourself, the feeling that the person gives you, rather than just the need to compromise your interests with an absolute indifference to the self-gain, in which case it isn't love for every human action unconsciously seeks self gratification.

Love is not an empirical matter, it is one formula that cannot be explained or controlled. Our existence revolves around various definitions of love and if one would be able to control love then it would mean that it is no longer a necessity to function in which case it would invalidate our existence.

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by anileve I don't understand the concept of controlling who you chose to fall in love with. If the statement is true then it is also true that you can condition yourself to fall in love as well. People seem to accept one theory without a consideration and acceptance of the other. Love is indeed an act of harboring ones selfishness by allowing the illusion of altruism . It is the idea of love that we fall in love with, not the person. The reason why you might fall in love or love someone is because in the essence that person makes you feel wonderful about yourself, the feeling that the person gives you, rather than just the need to compromise your interests with an absolute indifference to the self-gain, in which case it isn't love for every human action unconsciously seeks self gratification.

Love is not an empirical matter, it is one formula that cannot be explained or controlled. Our existence revolves around various definitions of love and if one would be able to control love then it would mean that it is no longer a necessity to function in which case it would invalidate our existence.

You see I have no dispute with the assertion that love is that which you described. It is indeed not empirical, nor can it mapped. It is intangible, ethereal, and it feels god damn good. Our existence does indeed revolve around forms of love, but I believe the discussion was pertaining to love for another person, i.e. what we commonly refer to as love, or "true love", etc.

With that in mind, the question arises, can it indeed be that what we refer to as 'love', is controllable? Love is unreason, no doubt, hence "love is blind", and hence it is powerful when one adheres to it. But do we simply just fall victim to love or can we control it? Obviously my answer is yes, but you may feel free to disagree, for I only speak of my own experiences.

[anileve]

Actually I was referring to love from every angle. Love is really one concept, but it's severed into different branches. Romantic love is really a platonic love with lust, in every instance of love the formula is the same and an extra element is simply added to make people to believe that it's an entirely different matter.

As for controlling who you fall in love with, perhaps by avoiding the person all together it is possible to achieve, but even in your case I am sure you have come across the situation when the feeling you felt for someone was ethically wrong due to certain factors, yet you couldn't help but feel something beyond your control. As I've said before, if the theory of “love control” you are protruding is possible, than it must be true that you can just as well condition yourself into loving just about anyone, and we both know it isn't so. Love wouldn't be such a mystery and encompass such attachment, emotion and value if we were able to control it. Something we can explain or control loses its essence and becomes a luxury item, in that retrospect we are far from reality, for a human being cannot survive without love, thus it's a necessity we must have to feel complete. Sort of like belief, something we all have but can't always control or explain precisely (especially due to your theory that faith begins where reason ends).

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by anileve
As for controlling who you fall in love with, perhaps by avoiding the person all together it is possible to achieve, but even in your case I am sure you have come across the situation when the feeling you felt for someone was ethically wrong due to certain factors, yet you couldn't help but feel something beyond your control. As I've said before, if the theory of “love control” you are protruding is possible, than it must be true that you can just as well condition yourself into loving just about anyone, and we both know it isn't so.

I would beg to differ madamme, for you are attempting to do exactly what you argued against in your previous post, to quantify and map love by trying to make an all encompassing definition applicable to all.

I have said repeatedly in my experiences that I have been able to control whom I fall in love with. Is this a surprise? The feelings that might be "beyond my control" are nothing but lust, and yet even that mind can control. It is a matter of self-conditioning of strenghtening thy mind over thy body. The "theory" is not only possible it is in use and in work, and I am not the only one here who agrees with this, but it is entirely possible to use self restraint in whom you fall for. To suggest that somehow this means we can condition ourself to "love anyone" is incorrect and has nothing to do with what I am talking about.

We can fall in love with anyone ( obviously from the pile of humans we are attracted to and have similarities with ), but it is ultimately up to us on whether or not we choose to fall.

[Wise]

Beeing pretend is like beeing baptized in water

Losers are already losers and i donno why they pretend....whatever!!! i enjoy the show!! well,I can repeat myself. Love is when you are faced with another who appreciates, acknowledges and confirms who you are, so in the end, you love yourself around that person. You don't love that person. But maybe this point of view is a little cynical, but bear with me, I try. Also it was mentioned that there are 3 types of love; maternal, romantic and Platonic. Did you know that with the rising of capitalism (industrial society, division of labor, and all things associated with it), came along the growth of romantic love? Many more people started writing in their diaries after WWII, and this proves to be self-reflection. When self-reflection is in the picture, the search for reassurance begins.

I also know that there is a thin line between love and hate. I think you can only possibly HATE someone if you LOVED them. Personally, nobody can hurt my feelings. Nobody can piss me off. The trick is to get someone I love, to do something really stupid and mean, and I'll give 'em hate, easy.

Good luck on your threads
Love: a powerful chemical, realised at various time's at variable degrees causing various mood's.Thats love

[Anonymouse]

Re: Beeing pretend is like beeing baptized in water

Originally posted by Wise Losers are already losers and i donno why they pretend....whatever!!! i enjoy the show!! well,I can repeat myself. Love is when you are faced with another who appreciates, acknowledges and confirms who you are, so in the end, you love yourself around that person. You don't love that person. But maybe this point of view is a little cynical, but bear with me, I try. Also it was mentioned that there are 3 types of love; maternal, romantic and Platonic. Did you know that with the rising of capitalism (industrial society, division of labor, and all things associated with it), came along the growth of romantic love? Many more people started writing in their diaries after WWII, and this proves to be self-reflection. When self-reflection is in the picture, the search for reassurance begins.

I also know that there is a thin line between love and hate. I think you can only possibly HATE someone if you LOVED them. Personally, nobody can hurt my feelings. Nobody can piss me off. The trick is to get someone I love, to do something really stupid and mean, and I'll give 'em hate, easy.

Good luck on your threads
Love: a powerful chemical, realised at various time's at variable degrees causing various mood's.Thats love

Such wisdom. Maybe you should write a book?

[Wise]

thank you for the declaration and acknowledgement

Thank you dear! i am really proud!

[Wise]

True Love !

True Love

Never underestimate the power of love.
This is one of my philosophies that I will always stay true to.
I could never change how I thought about this one.
I have been underestimated before.
I have also underestimated the power of love.
That is something I will never ever be able to do again.
I almost underestimated it recently.
But then I realized if her and I weren’t meant to be it would have been ended already.
Trouble is something that is a second sense to me in a relationship.
I have had good ones and bad ones.
I recently had to look at my life and figure out what kind of relationship I needed.
I have seen many different forms of love and feelings.
There is teen love, puppy love, fools love, and true love.
I am a lucky person in the fact that I have been able to encounter and make through all the different.

Love is something that comes and goes but when you find the right one it seems like forever before you can experiance it

Butterfly--- No matter how times you get mad at your love, REMEMBER, there is always a reason for madness.
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loving someone will not always guarantee to be loved back, but it's a guarantee of hapiness for not being afraid to show how you really feel...
Jenny-Love just doesn't fade away in one day...

I have a Wise question and i would like to have a good answer not sarcastic one

They say you have two heart's one in ur chest and the other in your stomach....does the one in your stomach get broken to???
I am really Mad to have an answer specially from Miss Butterfly