To impress a woman, a man.

[xBaron Dants]

ps , i dont give a sh!t if you dont agree with me , or like my opinion

You know....we get it. You keep saying that in almost every post you type, and it's usually before anybody has even replied anything. Our opinions are worthless to you. That's nice. 4 super points for you. Now move on and stop obsessing about how much we're worthless to you.



Edit: Oh and yes...um...I don't care if you like my opinion...cause like..yeah, I don't....

[spookyghost]

super


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[sleuth]

hmmmm....*stands next to flames and anileve and shows finger to mousy*

[anileve]

You know....we get it. You keep saying that in almost every post you type, and it's usually before anybody has even replied anything. Our opinions are worthless to you. That's nice. 4 super points for you. Now move on and stop obsessing about how much we're worthless to you.



Edit: Oh and yes...um...I don't care if you like my opinion...cause like..yeah, I don't....

AHAHAHAHAHA! My stomach is about to explode, Baronchik that was sweet!!!!

[anileve]

Now, you can deny this as you please, but I will make a very big generalization and state that all women want to feel that warmth, power, and protection of a man, to be the only one for that man, to be his woman. Of course, that is a big generalization on my part one that I have no evidence for, other than my intuition.

I don't follow. First you say that it's your opinion only and now you make generalizations. When you say that "all women" have that feeling, you are somehow separating them from men and indirectly implying that men don't desire the same feeling. So let me get this straight, men don't have the desire to be nurtured and feel the warmth of a woman. Or to feel the power of her "femininity" by being able to confide in her and reveal his inner fears in hopes that she will tenderly comfort him and offer a solution? Or perhaps really listen to him more then his buddies without forming any judgments? Why do you view things in such a two dimensional way?

If you want to be an independent career woman, fine, but you can never raise a family at the same time. It can't work. Look at Oprah. You are destined to a failed marriage and family, but at the same time I understand the quality of guys isn't all that great, and why should any of you depend on the guys of today? Independent career women are discovering that weak men want strong women, and power to them, they have a happy marriage in which the woman wears the pants. Strong men want feminine women who will amplify them to the realm of family, emotion, beauty and intimacy. If you want my honest opinion, most men either want a feminine woman, or they are too castrated to admit to it, and if they really love dominant woman, well I guess there are exceptions to the rules eh?

Ok, let me introduce a scenario to you. A virgin young and gentle "Jeyran" (what an idiotic comparison it is by the way) decides to devote herself to a powerful and dominant man by marrying him. She sacrifices her career and her "independence" (her friends, her personal interests, her personal life, and her financial freedom), in order to raise her family, considering the fact that she is a woman and must fulfill her purpose of a naturally assigned female role. Meanwhile her husband handles the necessities of life, including a very crucial survival factor - financial support. Children are born and everything is nice and dandy for 10 years, all of a sudden her husband calls her from Paris and says that he found someone else and he is not coming back.

She has no job, 2 kids who are not old enough. She has no financial support, has been out of the workforce 10 years already. She has no friends, no outside life, no "Masculine power" to guide her. In other words "She is screwed".

Now tell me this, if she was your daughter would you really advise her to give up herself and her independence to invest into an uncertain future? To completely give up her individuality to another human being who might betray her in the future? Because remember the only guaranteed thing in life is death, everything else changes continuously.

To sacrifice yourself entirely for someone else means to disable yourself, no one should ever be subjected to that!

[anileve]

I found this when I was reading through the APA's web site. It shows no decrease in sexual activity or satisfaction in dual-earner households that had recently given birth to a child when compared to households with a stay-at-home mother that had just given birth. The conclusion drawn is that a woman's motivation and ambitious in totality is more important than the extent to which she stretches her obligations. Career women are better able to handle multiple tasks and don't seem to have any more difficulty with family life than does the stay-at-home mother. I think it is worth reading, because it seems to confirm beautifully what ck has been saying.

Interesting article. The following are my favorite excerpts, very vital points and everyone should read them.

According to this hypothesis, multiple roles enhance psychological functioning. Individuals do have the resources available to fulfill the demands of three major roles. Multiple roles provide people with additional resources that help them cope with the demands and reduce stress (Wethington & Kessler, 1989). Epstein (1987) argued that there are three positive consequences of multiple roles: variety, buffering, and amplification. Variety refers to the fact that multiple roles expose the person to diverse viewpoints that are useful in maintaining a broad perspective. Buffering refers to the idea that stress, failures, or dissatisfactions in one role can be balanced by success and satisfaction in another. Finally, interaction with different groups provides the person with the opportunity to relive successes and recount satisfactions in other areas, amplifying them. Additionally, employed women have more power within the family because of their earnings, and this enhanced power leads to decreased psychological symptoms such as depression (Rosenfield, 1989). Furthermore, the woman's economic contribution reduces financial strain, which improves marital quality (Barnett & Rivers, 1996).

Glass and Fujimoto (1994) analyzed data from the National Survey of Families and Households.Paid employment was associated with reduced depression among both husbands and wives, unless the person worked more than 54 hr per week. Thus, role conflict and stress can result under some conditions of work, but the number of hours must be considerably more than 40. The presence of a preschool child was not associated with the depression scores of employed wives but was associated with increased depression among husbands.

It may be that women with higher energy levels elect to work full time or high full time, and these same high-energy women have plenty of energy left for and interest in sex.

[dusken]

There are plenty of men out there that, without sacrificing their masculinity, appreciate the emotional connection with a women and require the benefits of their vulnerablility to that woman. Additionally, I have met plenty of cold, emotionless, selfish women who could not care less about a loving relationship.

anileve: An interesting article but it does not seem to address success in raising the children. The focus seemed to be the parents, individually and as a couple.

[loseyourname]

Additionally, I have met plenty of cold, emotionless, selfish women who could not care less about a loving relationship.

Spiral, anyone?

anileve: An interesting article but it does not seem to address success in raising the children. The focus seemed to be the parents, individually and as a couple.

This study was conducted shortly after the births of the children. I can look for something more. If anyone else wants to look, the APA site has a lot of links, and you can also search college and university psychology department web pages. I actually found this study linked from the Reed College web site.

[dusken]

This study was conducted shortly after the births of the children. I can look for something more. If anyone else wants to look, the APA site has a lot of links, and you can also search college and university psychology department web pages. I actually found this study linked from the Reed College web site.

I would prefer to read an article defending the p.o.v. that would be in opposition to my own. Anonymouse mentioned an increasing divorce rate to which I respondend that such a figure cannot account for what divorces would have taken place had it been more culturally acceptable to do so. I hope to read an article that addresses cultural evolution and has tested, accurate, and controlled figures for the supposed negative aspects of "blurred" gender roles.

[anileve]

I respondend that such a figure cannot account for what divorces would have taken place had it been more culturally acceptable to do so.

Exactly!!!!